I'm relatively new to ImageJ plugin creation but I am trying to create a page for my plugin. I was wondering how to add meta keyword tags to my page so that Google/Bing/etc. can find my page when people do general searches for my plugin's function?
I've already tried the below (from http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MetaKeywordsTag) <meta name="keywords" content="List, Keywords" /> and <metakey>ListOfKeywords</metakey> Neither add keywords. Nathan -- ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html |
Hi Nathan,
> I was wondering how to add meta keyword tags to my page so that > Google/Bing/etc. can find my page when people do general searches for > my plugin's function? Isn't it enough to just describe your plugin's function using those keywords, such that indexing engines pick up on those words? You can also add categories, like: [[Category:Segmentation]] at the bottom of the page, to categorize your plugin. And feel free to make up new categories if you think they are generally useful. Regards, Curtis On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 11:20 AM, Nathan Hotaling <[hidden email]> wrote: > I'm relatively new to ImageJ plugin creation but I am trying to create a > page for my plugin. I was wondering how to add meta keyword tags to my > page so that Google/Bing/etc. can find my page when people do general > searches for my plugin's function? > > > > I've already tried the below (from > http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MetaKeywordsTag) > > > <meta name="keywords" content="List, Keywords" /> > > and > > <metakey>ListOfKeywords</metakey> > > > > Neither add keywords. > > > > Nathan > -- > ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html > -- ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html |
TLDR: Keywords serve an important purpose in modern search, especially when dealing with technical content where synonyms are prevalent.I was always taught to have syntactical homology between sentences in technical writing. For example, if I refer to a process as characterization in one sentence, I should not refer to the same process as analysis later in the document. This sort of homology leads to a more clear document and lowers reader's work to figure out what had been done or how something was done. However, referring to the process as "analysis" isn't wrong it's just not homologous with the document. So if someone Google's "analysis" then my document doesn't show up even though it is about that exact process. Further, Google gives priority to keywords and phrases based off of frequency of occurrence in the document as well as by proximity to main headers. Thus, just by including a sentence with the googled words doesn't mean it will be indexed correctly. The inclusion of keywords allows for the parsing of synonyms, and importance of words without having to create gimmicky sentences early in paragraphs. Ultimately, you are right, I could spend time using all the synonyms for my program in the opening few sentences below class 2 headers so that search engines would give them a high priority. However, the cost would be clarity, ease of reading/understanding, and as compared to site that do allow for keywords, a lower priority placed in search engines for results from ImageJ.net pages. Generally, these detracters won't matter that much for plug-ins that don't have commercial analogs but for those plugins that are meant to be a free alternative to commercial software this could lead to the plugin not being found/used.Also, from a site administrator point of view: enabling keywords will increase traffic to ImageJ because Google/Bing/Yahoo preferentially search keywords and prioritizes their value over in-line text. More eyes equals more people helped, equals more science being done, equals (hopefully) better science being done. I feel as though if you are trying to reach the average Biologist who doesn't know how to search the myriad of plugins available for ImageJ, you are much more likely to hook them by bringing them immediately (as the first link in their search engine search) to the page that they are looking for. Rather than making them click on the top 6 links and sort through the content. Ultimately, enabling keywords in ImageJ.net would allow for faster and more accurate searches both within the site and within search engines, so I feel as though the time it takes to insert the necessary .php would be worth it.I believe the process isn't too time/work intensive on your end, as the instructions here: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MetaKeywordsTag appear to be straightforward. I could be wrong, I've never done anything like that. And if I am, let me know and I'll drop it. I was just curious what the rational was to not enable keywords.Nathan
> Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 16:46:22 -0600 > From: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: Adding Keyword metadata to ImageJ.net site > To: [hidden email] > > Hi Nathan, > > > I was wondering how to add meta keyword tags to my page so that > > Google/Bing/etc. can find my page when people do general searches for > > my plugin's function? > > Isn't it enough to just describe your plugin's function using those > keywords, such that indexing engines pick up on those words? > > You can also add categories, like: > > [[Category:Segmentation]] > > at the bottom of the page, to categorize your plugin. And feel free to make > up new categories if you think they are generally useful. > > Regards, > Curtis > > On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 11:20 AM, Nathan Hotaling <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > I'm relatively new to ImageJ plugin creation but I am trying to create a > > page for my plugin. I was wondering how to add meta keyword tags to my > > page so that Google/Bing/etc. can find my page when people do general > > searches for my plugin's function? > > > > > > > > I've already tried the below (from > > http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MetaKeywordsTag) > > > > > > <meta name="keywords" content="List, Keywords" /> > > > > and > > > > <metakey>ListOfKeywords</metakey> > > > > > > > > Neither add keywords. > > > > > > > > Nathan > > -- > > ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html > > > > -- > ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html -- ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html |
Hi Nathan,
>I believe the process isn't too time/work intensive on your end It is extremely simple to install an extension like this on our end so it is not an inconvenience to request a feature like this, and your justification is completely reasonable. Unfortunately - I installed MetaKeywords but it looks like it requires a newer version of MediaWiki than we're running right now. Upgrading our system is non-trivial but it's certainly something we will have to do eventually. When we do, I'm hoping we can immediately enable MetaKeywords. Thank you for informing us about this feature - it definitely will help to motivate a MediaWiki upgrade. Best, Mark On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 3:15 PM, Nathan Hotaling <[hidden email]> wrote: > TLDR: Keywords serve an important purpose in modern search, especially > when dealing with technical content where synonyms are prevalent.I was > always taught to have syntactical homology between sentences in technical > writing. For example, if I refer to a process as characterization in one > sentence, I should not refer to the same process as analysis later in the > document. This sort of homology leads to a more clear document and lowers > reader's work to figure out what had been done or how something was done. > However, referring to the process as "analysis" isn't wrong it's just not > homologous with the document. So if someone Google's "analysis" then my > document doesn't show up even though it is about that exact process. > Further, Google gives priority to keywords and phrases based off of > frequency of occurrence in the document as well as by proximity to main > headers. Thus, just by including a sentence with the googled words doesn't > mean it will be indexed correctly. The inclusion of keywords allows for > the parsing of synonyms, and importance of words without having to create > gimmicky sentences early in paragraphs. Ultimately, you are right, I could > spend time using all the synonyms for my program in the opening few > sentences below class 2 headers so that search engines would give them a > high priority. However, the cost would be clarity, ease of > reading/understanding, and as compared to site that do allow for keywords, > a lower priority placed in search engines for results from ImageJ.net > pages. Generally, these detracters won't matter that much for plug-ins > that don't have commercial analogs but for those plugins that are meant to > be a free alternative to commercial software this could lead to the plugin > not being found/used.Also, from a site administrator point of view: > enabling keywords will increase traffic to ImageJ because Google/Bing/Yahoo > preferentially search keywords and prioritizes their value over in-line > text. More eyes equals more people helped, equals more science being done, > equals (hopefully) better science being done. I feel as though if you are > trying to reach the average Biologist who doesn't know how to search the > myriad of plugins available for ImageJ, you are much more likely to hook > them by bringing them immediately (as the first link in their search engine > search) to the page that they are looking for. Rather than making them > click on the top 6 links and sort through the content. Ultimately, > enabling keywords in ImageJ.net would allow for faster and more accurate > searches both within the site and within search engines, so I feel as > though the time it takes to insert the necessary .php would be worth it.I > believe the process isn't too time/work intensive on your end, as the > instructions here: > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MetaKeywordsTag appear to be > straightforward. I could be wrong, I've never done anything like that. > And if I am, let me know and I'll drop it. I was just curious what the > rational was to not enable keywords.Nathan > > > Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 16:46:22 -0600 > > From: [hidden email] > > Subject: Re: Adding Keyword metadata to ImageJ.net site > > To: [hidden email] > > > > Hi Nathan, > > > > > I was wondering how to add meta keyword tags to my page so that > > > Google/Bing/etc. can find my page when people do general searches for > > > my plugin's function? > > > > Isn't it enough to just describe your plugin's function using those > > keywords, such that indexing engines pick up on those words? > > > > You can also add categories, like: > > > > [[Category:Segmentation]] > > > > at the bottom of the page, to categorize your plugin. And feel free to > make > > up new categories if you think they are generally useful. > > > > Regards, > > Curtis > > > > On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 11:20 AM, Nathan Hotaling <[hidden email]> > wrote: > > > > > I'm relatively new to ImageJ plugin creation but I am trying to create > a > > > page for my plugin. I was wondering how to add meta keyword tags to my > > > page so that Google/Bing/etc. can find my page when people do general > > > searches for my plugin's function? > > > > > > > > > > > > I've already tried the below (from > > > http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MetaKeywordsTag) > > > > > > > > > <meta name="keywords" content="List, Keywords" /> > > > > > > and > > > > > > <metakey>ListOfKeywords</metakey> > > > > > > > > > > > > Neither add keywords. > > > > > > > > > > > > Nathan > > > -- > > > ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html > > > > > > > -- > > ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html > > -- > ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html > -- ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html |
Hi Nathan,
> I was wondering how to add meta keyword tags to my page so that > Google/Bing/etc. can find my page when people do general searches for > my plugin's function? More than one year after you asked this question, we have done a thorough review of all installed modules on the wiki, and found that there is already one that suits this purpose. It is called Add_HTML_Meta_and_Title. Usage is described here: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Add_HTML_Meta_and_Title I believe it will let you add keywords to your wiki page(s) easily. If you are still interested, give it a try, and let us know how it goes. Regards, Curtis -- Curtis Rueden LOCI software architect - http://loci.wisc.edu/software ImageJ2 lead, Fiji maintainer - http://imagej.net/User:Rueden Did you know ImageJ has a forum? http://forum.imagej.net/ On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 7:54 AM, Mark Hiner <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hi Nathan, > > >I believe the process isn't too time/work intensive on your end > > It is extremely simple to install an extension like this on our end so it > is not an inconvenience to request a feature like this, and your > justification is completely reasonable. > > Unfortunately - I installed MetaKeywords but it looks like it requires a > newer version of MediaWiki than we're running right now. Upgrading our > system is non-trivial but it's certainly something we will have to do > eventually. When we do, I'm hoping we can immediately enable MetaKeywords. > > Thank you for informing us about this feature - it definitely will help to > motivate a MediaWiki upgrade. > > Best, > Mark > > On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 3:15 PM, Nathan Hotaling <[hidden email]> > wrote: > > > TLDR: Keywords serve an important purpose in modern search, especially > > when dealing with technical content where synonyms are prevalent.I was > > always taught to have syntactical homology between sentences in technical > > writing. For example, if I refer to a process as characterization in one > > sentence, I should not refer to the same process as analysis later in the > > document. This sort of homology leads to a more clear document and lowers > > reader's work to figure out what had been done or how something was done. > > However, referring to the process as "analysis" isn't wrong it's just not > > homologous with the document. So if someone Google's "analysis" then my > > document doesn't show up even though it is about that exact process. > > Further, Google gives priority to keywords and phrases based off of > > frequency of occurrence in the document as well as by proximity to main > > headers. Thus, just by including a sentence with the googled words > doesn't > > mean it will be indexed correctly. The inclusion of keywords allows for > > the parsing of synonyms, and importance of words without having to create > > gimmicky sentences early in paragraphs. Ultimately, you are right, I > could > > spend time using all the synonyms for my program in the opening few > > sentences below class 2 headers so that search engines would give them a > > high priority. However, the cost would be clarity, ease of > > reading/understanding, and as compared to site that do allow for > keywords, > > a lower priority placed in search engines for results from ImageJ.net > > pages. Generally, these detracters won't matter that much for plug-ins > > that don't have commercial analogs but for those plugins that are meant > to > > be a free alternative to commercial software this could lead to the > plugin > > not being found/used.Also, from a site administrator point of view: > > enabling keywords will increase traffic to ImageJ because > Google/Bing/Yahoo > > preferentially search keywords and prioritizes their value over in-line > > text. More eyes equals more people helped, equals more science being > done, > > equals (hopefully) better science being done. I feel as though if you > are > > trying to reach the average Biologist who doesn't know how to search the > > myriad of plugins available for ImageJ, you are much more likely to hook > > them by bringing them immediately (as the first link in their search > engine > > search) to the page that they are looking for. Rather than making them > > click on the top 6 links and sort through the content. Ultimately, > > enabling keywords in ImageJ.net would allow for faster and more accurate > > searches both within the site and within search engines, so I feel as > > though the time it takes to insert the necessary .php would be worth it.I > > believe the process isn't too time/work intensive on your end, as the > > instructions here: > > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MetaKeywordsTag appear to be > > straightforward. I could be wrong, I've never done anything like that. > > And if I am, let me know and I'll drop it. I was just curious what the > > rational was to not enable keywords.Nathan > > > > > Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 16:46:22 -0600 > > > From: [hidden email] > > > Subject: Re: Adding Keyword metadata to ImageJ.net site > > > To: [hidden email] > > > > > > Hi Nathan, > > > > > > > I was wondering how to add meta keyword tags to my page so that > > > > Google/Bing/etc. can find my page when people do general searches for > > > > my plugin's function? > > > > > > Isn't it enough to just describe your plugin's function using those > > > keywords, such that indexing engines pick up on those words? > > > > > > You can also add categories, like: > > > > > > [[Category:Segmentation]] > > > > > > at the bottom of the page, to categorize your plugin. And feel free to > > make > > > up new categories if you think they are generally useful. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Curtis > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 11:20 AM, Nathan Hotaling <[hidden email]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > I'm relatively new to ImageJ plugin creation but I am trying to > create > > a > > > > page for my plugin. I was wondering how to add meta keyword tags to > my > > > > page so that Google/Bing/etc. can find my page when people do general > > > > searches for my plugin's function? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've already tried the below (from > > > > http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MetaKeywordsTag) > > > > > > > > > > > > <meta name="keywords" content="List, Keywords" /> > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > <metakey>ListOfKeywords</metakey> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Neither add keywords. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nathan > > > > -- > > > > ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html > > > > -- > > ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html > > > > -- > ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html > -- ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html |
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