Advice for learner

[Pedro J CamelloDr Pedro J Camello]

Hi all,

I need an advice. Though I manage to make my own macros to automate my needs I would like to write plugins. If I want a serious approach, what would be better, to learn Java or to learn Python?
Thanks for your advice

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[Mark Hiner]

Hi Pedro,

>If I want a serious approach, what would be better, to learn Java or to
learn Python?

If you ever want to work on the ImageJ source code
<http://imagej.net/Source_code>, you should learn Java. It's also a good
choice if you're going to be writing plugins that provide extensible
functionality you expect others to consume and build off.

Python scripting <http://imagej.net/Jython_Scripting> can lead to more
succinct implementations, which can be rapidly developed and easier to
understand.

Since you can choose either, it could be worth spending a little time on
tutorials for both languages to see if either "feels" like a better fit to
you (e.g., I personally started by learning BASIC and then C.. but things
never really clicked until I wrote Java code).

Hope that helps.

Best,
Mark

On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 1:05 PM, Pedro J Camello <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I need an advice. Though I manage to make my own macros to automate my
> needs I would like to write plugins. If I want a serious approach, what
> would be better, to learn Java or to learn Python?
> Thanks for your advice
>
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>

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[Mark Hiner]

Hi Pedro,

>The point is: can Python scripts access and manipulate pixels and their
values?

Certainly! There are great examples on the wiki
<http://imagej.net/Jython_Scripting#Jython_tutorials_for_ImageJ>.

>Is it possible to write a plugin using a Python script?

Absolutely. As mentioned in the Jython workflow section
<http://imagej.net/Jython_Scripting#Workflow_for_creating_Jython_scripts>,
anything in the /plugins sub-directory can be discovered automatically.
Once you start developing scripts (or Java plugins if you go that route)
you could even create your own update site <http://imagej.net/Update_Sites>
to distribute them.

>My intend was to learn Python

If Python seems easier to you then definitely spend some time on the Jython
scripting wiki page to feel comfortable creating scripts and calling them
from ImageJ. (Side note: sorry if it's confusing to switch terminology
between Jython and Python - in case you were wondering, Jython
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jython>is a Java-based implementation of
Python, allowing you to write Python scripts but have them interpreted by a
Java-based application like ImageJ)

Let us know if you run into any roadblocks. The community is here to help!

Best,
Mark

On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 5:39 AM, Pedro Javier Camello Almaraz <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Mark,
>
> thanks for your reply. The point is: can Python scripts access and
> manipulate pixels and their values? Is it possible to write a plugin using
> a Python script? My intend was to learn Python (for a beginner with basic
> expereince with Visual basis it seems easier than Java) but only if it is
> really useful to write ImageJ plugins
>
> regards
>

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[Adam Hughes]

If you are doing python, you also should consider using scikit image.  Id
recommend figuring out what analysis you need to do before deciding which
tools and languages to undertake.
On Dec 5, 2014 10:26 AM, "Mark Hiner" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Pedro,
>
> >The point is: can Python scripts access and manipulate pixels and their
> values?
>
> Certainly! There are great examples on the wiki
> <http://imagej.net/Jython_Scripting#Jython_tutorials_for_ImageJ>.
>
> >Is it possible to write a plugin using a Python script?
>
> Absolutely. As mentioned in the Jython workflow section
> <http://imagej.net/Jython_Scripting#Workflow_for_creating_Jython_scripts>,
> anything in the /plugins sub-directory can be discovered automatically.
> Once you start developing scripts (or Java plugins if you go that route)
> you could even create your own update site <http://imagej.net/Update_Sites
> >
> to distribute them.
>
> >My intend was to learn Python
>
> If Python seems easier to you then definitely spend some time on the Jython
> scripting wiki page to feel comfortable creating scripts and calling them
> from ImageJ. (Side note: sorry if it's confusing to switch terminology
> between Jython and Python - in case you were wondering, Jython
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jython>is a Java-based implementation of
> Python, allowing you to write Python scripts but have them interpreted by a
> Java-based application like ImageJ)
>
> Let us know if you run into any roadblocks. The community is here to help!
>
> Best,
> Mark
>
> On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 5:39 AM, Pedro Javier Camello Almaraz <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > Hi Mark,
> >
> > thanks for your reply. The point is: can Python scripts access and
> > manipulate pixels and their values? Is it possible to write a plugin
> using
> > a Python script? My intend was to learn Python (for a beginner with basic
> > expereince with Visual basis it seems easier than Java) but only if it is
> > really useful to write ImageJ plugins
> >
> > regards
> >
>
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