Dear ImageJ users,
Im an ex ImageTool user, who is intending to use ImageJ to count beetles on pictures taken to samples. I downloaded ImageJ not so long ago, three days, and so far Ive managed to count samples where the objects are completely separated. I adjust the threshold and then analyse the particles. No problem with that, but when the objects touch each other, or their out of a certain size range (ok, I can say I want a certain range of areas to be counted, but I may have beetle "rests" in my sample, that I need to analyse. In ImageTool one could apply a filter (save the filter), and classify the groups of objects regarding their size, so I could get a quite accurate estimate of the number of beetles in that sample, even if they were overlapped. This program even gave the display of the filtered sizes and so on. But it was quite difficult to export data, and gave errors on my PC, so I've decided to switch, but now I miss this options... Is there a way to apply such filters? Any other suggestions to carry such analyses? I guess this kind of questions are posted quite often, when I've searched "count" on the mail list, I get quite a load of results... sorry if I had not found the answer yet, but I'm in a kind of hurry... Well, thanks a million in advance, Greetings Iñaki Etxebeste Larrañaga M.Sc. Biologist E T S II AA Universidad de Valladolid Avda. Madrid 57 34071 Palencia (Spain) |
Hi,
one thing you could try is creating a mask (Edit>Selection>Create Mask), then runProcess>Binary>Watershed. You could also clean the shapes e.g remove the legs or antennae, by Process>Binary>Open before Watershed or the like. Analyze particles can limit the area of the particles counted or count only particles with a given circularity range (see the documentation). An alternative might be writing various values to the results table (Analyze>Set Measurements) and filtering by an ImageJ macro or a separate program. Michael ________________________________________________________________ On 15 Nov 2007, at 12:59, Iñaki Etxebeste Larrañaga wrote: > Dear ImageJ users, > > I’m an ex – ImageTool user, who is intending to use ImageJ to count > beetles > on pictures taken to samples. > > I downloaded ImageJ not so long ago, three days, and so far I’ve > managed to > count samples where the objects are completely separated. I adjust the > threshold and then analyse the particles. No problem with that, but > when the > objects touch each other, or their out of a certain size range (ok, > I can > say I want a certain range of areas to be counted, but I may have > beetle > "rests" in my sample, that I need to analyse. > In ImageTool one could apply a filter (save the filter), and > classify the > groups of objects regarding their size, so I could get a quite > accurate > estimate of the number of beetles in that sample, even if they were > overlapped. This program even gave the display of the filtered > sizes and so > on. But it was quite difficult to export data, and gave errors on > my PC, so > I've decided to switch, but now I miss this options... Is there a > way to > apply such filters? Any other suggestions to carry such analyses? > > I guess this kind of questions are posted quite often, when I've > searched > "count" on the mail list, I get quite a load of results... sorry if > I had > not found the answer yet, but I'm in a kind of hurry... > > Well, thanks a million in advance, > Greetings > > > Iñaki Etxebeste Larrañaga > M.Sc. Biologist > E T S II AA Universidad de Valladolid > Avda. Madrid 57 > 34071 Palencia (Spain) > > |
Hello everyone,
When I open a fold as a stack (by dragging the folder onto the ImageJ applet) I am noticing that it doesn't open a near identical folder with the same file order. I have just tested these folders: folder #1 has 4 files in it. XY1194926814_C0_CY5.tiff XY1194927007_C0_CY5.tiff XY1194927045_C0_CY5.tiff XY1194927081_C0_CY5.tiff folder #2 has 4 files in it. XY1194926814_C1_CY 3.tiff XY1194927007_C1_CY 3.tiff XY1194927045_C1_CY 3.tiff XY1194927081_C1_CY 3.tiff When I open folder #1 by dragging the folder onto the ImageJ icon, I get a stack with this file order 1) XY1194927081_C0_CY5.tiff 2) XY1194927045_C0_CY5.tiff 3) XY1194926814_C0_CY5.tiff 4) XY1194927007_C0_CY5.tiff note that it isn't just "reverse" of the order in the folder. and folder #2 is in this order 1) XY1194926814_C1_CY 3.tiff 2) XY1194927081_C1_CY 3.tiff 3) XY1194927007_C1_CY 3.tiff 4) XY1194927045_C1_CY 3.tiff in truth I have folders with over 80 such files separated by the channel. Sometimes ImageJ opens each folder in the same order so I can just perform stack magic to view the files ... but in the cases where the file order is messed up - it causes an incredible headache! Does anyone have any suggestions? I am running Linux by the way - could it have something to do with the "raw" file order? John |
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