Dear list,
I've been measuring the orientations of marrow spaces in images of bone samples from exercised and non-exercised horses, using Analyze Particles. Which software tools do people use to analyse circular data like these angles? A quick look on Wikipedia indicates that tests based on assuming a Normal distribution are not valid for circular data, and it appears that SPSS v. 11.0.0 has no circular statistical ability. Is it time to grow up and use SAS?? All comments welcome, Mike -- Michael Doube BPhil BVSc MRCVS PhD Student Dental Institute Queen Mary, University of London New Rd London E1 1BB United Kingdom Phone +44 (0)20 7377 7000 ext 2681 |
>Which software tools do people use to analyse circular data like these
>angles? I don't know of any software tools that implement circular statistics. Most circular statistical methods are simple enough to easily implement using an Excel spreadsheet or even by hand. The reference I use is Circular Statistics in Biology by Edward Batschelet. >A quick look on Wikipedia indicates that tests based on assuming >a Normal distribution are not valid for circular data, The homologue of the normal distribution for circular data is the von Mises distribution, which looks like a normal curve with tails that wrap around and meet 180 degrees from the mean. ______________________________________ David B. Pettigrew, Ph.D. Postdoctoral Fellow Dept. of Neurosurgery Univ. of Cincinnati _______________________________________ |
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Michael Doube wrote:
> Dear list, > > I've been measuring the orientations of marrow spaces in images of > bone samples from exercised and non-exercised horses, using Analyze > Particles. > > Which software tools do people use to analyse circular data like these > angles? A quick look on Wikipedia indicates that tests based on > assuming a Normal distribution are not valid for circular data, and it > appears that SPSS v. 11.0.0 has no circular statistical ability. Is it > time to grow up and use SAS?? > > All comments welcome, > > Mike > http://www.r-project.org/ its a very powerful tool for Statistical Computing and is free It has an module for circular statistics see http://seldon.it.northwestern.edu/sscc/R/library/circular/html/00Index.html |
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Hi Mike,
I don't know which stats packages can deal with circular statistics, but I think the standard way of treating them is partly described in Wikipedia at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directional_statistics. For a set of angles theta, calculate S as the mean value of sin(theta) and C as the mean value of cos(theta). You can then take arctan(S, C) as the mean value of theta (this is in the Wikipedia article) and 1-S^2-C^2 as the variance (this is not in the article). This function behaves just as you'd expect it to for angles that are tightly distributed about the mean (the variance will be in square radians not square degrees), but obviously the variance in the case of randomly distributed angles cannot exceed 1. Hope this helps Gareth On Wednesday, October 25, 2006, at 02:51 pm, Michael Doube wrote: > Dear list, > > I've been measuring the orientations of marrow spaces in images of > bone samples from exercised and non-exercised horses, using Analyze > Particles. > > Which software tools do people use to analyse circular data like these > angles? A quick look on Wikipedia indicates that tests based on > assuming a Normal distribution are not valid for circular data, and it > appears that SPSS v. 11.0.0 has no circular statistical ability. Is it > time to grow up and use SAS?? > > All comments welcome, > > Mike > > -- > Michael Doube BPhil BVSc MRCVS > PhD Student > Dental Institute > Queen Mary, University of London > New Rd > London E1 1BB > United Kingdom > > Phone +44 (0)20 7377 7000 ext 2681 > > Dr W Gareth Rees Tel 01223 336540 Polar Landscape and Remote Sensing Group Int +44 1223 336540 Scott Polar Research Institute Fax 01223 336549 Lensfield Road, Cambridge CB2 1ER Direct line 336575 United Kingdom |
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