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Gabriel Landini
Hi, until now I have used just a simple text editor to code plugins, but
things are starting to get more complex so I decided to  install Eclipse
(Mars.1 under linux). I managed to create a new project and import the ImageJ1
code and it runs fine.

However I found 2 issues that I am not sure how to resolve:

1. This one is minor: running from Eclipse, the Help>About ImageJ does not
show the background image as in the compiled version. Is that normal? If not,
how do I resolve it?

2.  I am stuck on how to create a new plugin with this setup.  The tutorials
online are for much older versions of Eclipse and things do not seem to be
where they should.
Do I just add a new Project? Do I add sub-folders under the /src/plugin/
folder? Do I need to create a new build folder for the plugins?

Many thanks for any hints.
Cheers

Gabriel

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Re: Eclipse woes

Avital Steinberg
Hi Gabriel,
I used the following detailed tutorial:

http://imagejdocu.tudor.lu/doku.php?id=howto:plugins:the_imagej_eclipse_howto

Search for the following sentence in order to get to the part you're
looking for:

Create a new plugin (or import your previously developed plugins).

Good luck,
Avital

On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 6:46 PM, Gabriel Landini <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> Hi, until now I have used just a simple text editor to code plugins, but
> things are starting to get more complex so I decided to  install Eclipse
> (Mars.1 under linux). I managed to create a new project and import the
> ImageJ1
> code and it runs fine.
>
> However I found 2 issues that I am not sure how to resolve:
>
> 1. This one is minor: running from Eclipse, the Help>About ImageJ does not
> show the background image as in the compiled version. Is that normal? If
> not,
> how do I resolve it?
>
> 2.  I am stuck on how to create a new plugin with this setup.  The
> tutorials
> online are for much older versions of Eclipse and things do not seem to be
> where they should.
> Do I just add a new Project? Do I add sub-folders under the /src/plugin/
> folder? Do I need to create a new build folder for the plugins?
>
> Many thanks for any hints.
> Cheers
>
> Gabriel
>
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Re: Eclipse woes

Jan Eglinger
Hi Gabriel and Avital,

for developing a new plugin, this is a very good starting point:

https://github.com/imagej/minimal-ij1-plugin/

When you import this project into Eclipse, you get a working maven
project that inherits from ImageJ's parent project 'pom-imagej'.

Best,
Jan


On 24.11.2015 06:35, Avital Steinberg wrote:

> Hi Gabriel,
> I used the following detailed tutorial:
>
> http://imagejdocu.tudor.lu/doku.php?id=howto:plugins:the_imagej_eclipse_howto
>
> Search for the following sentence in order to get to the part you're
> looking for:
>
> Create a new plugin (or import your previously developed plugins).
>
> Good luck,
> Avital
>
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 6:46 PM, Gabriel Landini <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi, until now I have used just a simple text editor to code plugins, but
>> things are starting to get more complex so I decided to  install Eclipse
>> (Mars.1 under linux). I managed to create a new project and import the
>> ImageJ1
>> code and it runs fine.
>>
>> However I found 2 issues that I am not sure how to resolve:
>>
>> 1. This one is minor: running from Eclipse, the Help>About ImageJ does not
>> show the background image as in the compiled version. Is that normal? If
>> not,
>> how do I resolve it?
>>
>> 2.  I am stuck on how to create a new plugin with this setup.  The
>> tutorials
>> online are for much older versions of Eclipse and things do not seem to be
>> where they should.
>> Do I just add a new Project? Do I add sub-folders under the /src/plugin/
>> folder? Do I need to create a new build folder for the plugins?
>>
>> Many thanks for any hints.
>> Cheers
>>
>> Gabriel
>>
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>>
>
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Re: Eclipse woes

ctrueden
Hi Avital & Gabriel,

I second Jan's suggestion to copy the minimal-ij1-plugin and use Maven.
There are many advantages. The tutorial on the imagejdocu wiki is long and
complex and less up-to-date.

If you use Maven you will get source browsing for free, and dependency
management nearly for free.

See also these articles:
*
http://imagej.net/Introduction_into_Developing_Plugins#Getting_started_with_Maven
* http://imagej.net/Writing_plugins

The following video tutorial might also be informative, although it is a
little outdated now too:
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyfE_fVphCs

Regards,
Curtis

On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 2:15 AM, Jan Eglinger <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> Hi Gabriel and Avital,
>
> for developing a new plugin, this is a very good starting point:
>
> https://github.com/imagej/minimal-ij1-plugin/
>
> When you import this project into Eclipse, you get a working maven project
> that inherits from ImageJ's parent project 'pom-imagej'.
>
> Best,
> Jan
>
>
>
> On 24.11.2015 06:35, Avital Steinberg wrote:
>
>> Hi Gabriel,
>> I used the following detailed tutorial:
>>
>>
>> http://imagejdocu.tudor.lu/doku.php?id=howto:plugins:the_imagej_eclipse_howto
>>
>> Search for the following sentence in order to get to the part you're
>> looking for:
>>
>> Create a new plugin (or import your previously developed plugins).
>>
>> Good luck,
>> Avital
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 6:46 PM, Gabriel Landini <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi, until now I have used just a simple text editor to code plugins, but
>>> things are starting to get more complex so I decided to  install Eclipse
>>> (Mars.1 under linux). I managed to create a new project and import the
>>> ImageJ1
>>> code and it runs fine.
>>>
>>> However I found 2 issues that I am not sure how to resolve:
>>>
>>> 1. This one is minor: running from Eclipse, the Help>About ImageJ does
>>> not
>>> show the background image as in the compiled version. Is that normal? If
>>> not,
>>> how do I resolve it?
>>>
>>> 2.  I am stuck on how to create a new plugin with this setup.  The
>>> tutorials
>>> online are for much older versions of Eclipse and things do not seem to
>>> be
>>> where they should.
>>> Do I just add a new Project? Do I add sub-folders under the /src/plugin/
>>> folder? Do I need to create a new build folder for the plugins?
>>>
>>> Many thanks for any hints.
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Gabriel
>>>
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>>>
>>>
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>>
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Re: Eclipse woes

Gabriel Landini
On Wednesday 25 Nov 2015 14:01:08 Curtis Rueden wrote:
> The following video tutorial might also be informative, although it is a
> little outdated now too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyfE_fVphCs

Hi thanks Curtis,
I had a go at this. Dowloaded the ImageJA, imported the maven project into
Eclipse, then somehow it compiled the source code under the git/ImageJA/target

However, I do not see how to run the result from Eclipse, do I need to specify
a launcher or a script file?

Thanks

Gabriel

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Re: Eclipse woes

Mark Hiner
Hi Gabriel,

>I had a go at this. Dowloaded the ImageJA, imported the maven project into
Eclipse, then somehow it compiled the source code under the
git/ImageJA/target

Maven outputs build artifacts (the .jar) in a special /target folder. If
you want to run in Eclipse you actually don't need to worry about this
output unless you want to distribute the .jar or test it in a Fiji
installation (Eclipse will compile your code either when you tell it to
launch an application, or continuously as changes are made).

>However, I do not see how to run the result from Eclipse, do I need to
specify a launcher or a script file?

The goal for launching a program is typically "find the main method and run
it."[1] In Fiji there are helper classes for launching with the appropriate
classpath from Eclipse[2], and in ImageJ 1.x you can just run the main
method in the ImageJ class[3].

Hope that helps.

Best,
Mark

[1]
http://help.eclipse.org/mars/index.jsp?topic=%2Forg.eclipse.jdt.doc.user%2FgettingStarted%2Fqs-12.htm
[2] http://imagej.net/Developing_Fiji_in_Eclipse#Running_and_Debugging
[3]
https://github.com/imagej/ImageJA/blob/v1.50e/src/main/java/ij/ImageJ.java#L654

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Re: Eclipse woes

Burger Wilhelm
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Hello Gabriel,

I have been working with Eclipse in combination with ImageJ with great satisfaction for many years, using a very simple setup that works flawlessly for all my students and on all types of computers (i.e., is fool-proof). I do not use Maven to keep things as simple as possible.

The setup looks like this:
* Use the <Image> directory as the root of the Eclipse project.
* Include ij.jar in the Java build path (in Eclipse).
* Place all additional libraries required into the (new)  <ImageJ>/jars folder and include them in the Java build path.
* Create a source folder 'src' to hold the plugin code. Set up <ImageJ>/plugins as its output folder.
* In 'src' I usually create Java packages (max. 1 level deep) for structuring your plugins.

A complete Eclipse project setup like this can be downloaded here:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/rp36c95xlj23ljo/ImageJ-Eclipse-Project.zip?dl=0

I usually do not launch  ImageJ from within Eclipse but run both side by side. This allows a very efficient edit-compile-run cycle.
If you need to start ImageJ under Eclipse's "umbrella" (e.g. to set breakpoints and inspect the runtime stack) this can be done easily with a small helper class or running ImageJ's main() method. Which I never found to be necessary though...

Hope this is of any help. There is no substitute for a proper IDE, compile-time safety etc., I am sure you will never want to miss it again.

Best regards,
Wilhelm

www.imagingbook.com


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Sent: Mittwoch, 02. Dezember 2015 14:40
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: Eclipse woes

On Wednesday 25 Nov 2015 14:01:08 Curtis Rueden wrote:
> The following video tutorial might also be informative, although it is
> a little outdated now too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyfE_fVphCs

Hi thanks Curtis,
I had a go at this. Dowloaded the ImageJA, imported the maven project into Eclipse, then somehow it compiled the source code under the git/ImageJA/target

However, I do not see how to run the result from Eclipse, do I need to specify a launcher or a script file?

Thanks

Gabriel

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Re: Eclipse woes

Gabriel Landini
In reply to this post by Mark Hiner
On Wednesday 02 Dec 2015 08:41:02 you wrote:
> The goal for launching a program is typically "find the main method and run
> it."[1] In Fiji there are helper classes for launching with the appropriate
> classpath from Eclipse[2], and in ImageJ 1.x you can just run the main
> method in the ImageJ class[3].

Thanks Mark, I found the way to run the project now.

Cheers

Gabriel

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Re: Eclipse woes

Gabriel Landini
In reply to this post by Burger Wilhelm
On Wednesday 02 Dec 2015 15:12:07 Burger Wilhelm wrote:
> I have been working with Eclipse in combination with ImageJ with great
> satisfaction for many years, using a very simple setup that works
> flawlessly for all my students and on all types of computers (i.e., is
> fool-proof). I do not use Maven to keep things as simple as possible.

Many thanks Wilhelm, I will look at your suggestions too.
I found that the tutorials out there are either for somebody with experience
using Eclipse (obviously not me) or for previous versions. It appears that
some things are in different places and takes me some time to find.

Cheers

Gabriel

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Mark Hiner
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>I usually do not launch  ImageJ from within Eclipse but run both side by
side. This allows a very efficient edit-compile-run cycle.

I second this!

>I do not use Maven to keep things as simple as possible.

I see the complexity of Maven as a fixed cost. If you have a simple project
and dependency structure it may not make sense to use Maven. As your
complexity grows, paying the Maven cost begins to be more and more
reasonable.

>The setup looks like this:

I like what you're doing here to minimize the hassle of copying jars! I
just want to add that you are supposed to be able to do this in a general
way, for every Mavenized ImageJ project, and also automatically copy
dependencies and clean up duplicate versions.[1]

[1]
http://imagej.net/index.php?title=Developing_Fiji_in_Eclipse&oldid=18706#Option_2:_Install_dependencies

On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 9:12 AM, Burger Wilhelm <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hello Gabriel,
>
> I have been working with Eclipse in combination with ImageJ with great
> satisfaction for many years, using a very simple setup that works
> flawlessly for all my students and on all types of computers (i.e., is
> fool-proof). I do not use Maven to keep things as simple as possible.
>
> The setup looks like this:
> * Use the <Image> directory as the root of the Eclipse project.
> * Include ij.jar in the Java build path (in Eclipse).
> * Place all additional libraries required into the (new)  <ImageJ>/jars
> folder and include them in the Java build path.
> * Create a source folder 'src' to hold the plugin code. Set up
> <ImageJ>/plugins as its output folder.
> * In 'src' I usually create Java packages (max. 1 level deep) for
> structuring your plugins.
>
> A complete Eclipse project setup like this can be downloaded here:
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/rp36c95xlj23ljo/ImageJ-Eclipse-Project.zip?dl=0
>
> I usually do not launch  ImageJ from within Eclipse but run both side by
> side. This allows a very efficient edit-compile-run cycle.
> If you need to start ImageJ under Eclipse's "umbrella" (e.g. to set
> breakpoints and inspect the runtime stack) this can be done easily with a
> small helper class or running ImageJ's main() method. Which I never found
> to be necessary though...
>
> Hope this is of any help. There is no substitute for a proper IDE,
> compile-time safety etc., I am sure you will never want to miss it again.
>
> Best regards,
> Wilhelm
>
> www.imagingbook.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ImageJ Interest Group [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
> Gabriel Landini
> Sent: Mittwoch, 02. Dezember 2015 14:40
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: Eclipse woes
>
> On Wednesday 25 Nov 2015 14:01:08 Curtis Rueden wrote:
> > The following video tutorial might also be informative, although it is
> > a little outdated now too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyfE_fVphCs
>
> Hi thanks Curtis,
> I had a go at this. Dowloaded the ImageJA, imported the maven project into
> Eclipse, then somehow it compiled the source code under the
> git/ImageJA/target
>
> However, I do not see how to run the result from Eclipse, do I need to
> specify a launcher or a script file?
>
> Thanks
>
> Gabriel
>
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Re: Eclipse woes

Dimiter Prodanov-3
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Hi Gabriel,

I basically use the same strategy as Wilhelm.
I typically code a main method so that I could start ImageJ from Eclipse by
defining a launcher

public static void main(String[] args) {
try {
    File f=new File(args[0]);
    if (f.exists() && f.isDirectory() ) {
    System.setProperty("plugins.dir", args[0]);
    new ImageJ();
    } else {
    throw new IllegalArgumentException();
    }
    }
    catch (Exception ex) {
    IJ.log("plugins.dir misspecified\n");
    ex.printStackTrace();
    }
}


I run 2 copies of ImageJ - a development copy and a testing copy.

best regards,

Dimiter

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Re: Eclipse woes

Peterbauer Thomas
On 2015-12-03 09:06, Dimiter Prodanov wrote:

> Hi Gabriel,
>
> I basically use the same strategy as Wilhelm.
> I typically code a main method so that I could start ImageJ from Eclipse by
> defining a launcher
>
> public static void main(String[] args) {
> try {
>      File f=new File(args[0]);
>      if (f.exists() && f.isDirectory() ) {
>      System.setProperty("plugins.dir", args[0]);
>      new ImageJ();
>      } else {
>      throw new IllegalArgumentException();
>      }
>      }
>      catch (Exception ex) {
>      IJ.log("plugins.dir misspecified\n");
>      ex.printStackTrace();
>      }
> }

Another very convenient way to launch ImageJ from within Eclipse for
simple projects without Maven is to define ImageJ either as an external
JAR or user library:

Project > Properties > Java Build Path > choose the Libraries tab > Add
External JARs...

and specify the path to ij.jar (you may use your normal ImageJ path).
You can even define ImageJ as User Library  (Add Library...) and/or
attach source/javadocs to the external JAR/library.

Then, make a run configuration:

Project > Properties > Run/Debug Settings > New... (click Java Application)

In the "Main" tab of the dialog popping up, clicck "Search" to find the
main class of the ij.jar defined as external JAR/library. Eclipse will
find ij.ImageJ.

In the "Arguments" tab, pass the ImageJ "-run" command to launch your
plugin:

-run "NameOfMyPlugin"

You can give more arguments (-ijpath to specify the plugin directory,
-macro to run a macro to load a sample image before calling your plugin
etc.). Exceptions and System.out messages are redirected to the console
in Eclipse.

Best,
Thomas



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ctrueden
Hi everyone,

All of these approaches are fine... until you want to share your code with
others.

Using Maven avoids IDE lock-in. Others can use whichever tool they prefer
to easily build, develop and run your code. It is super easy to import a
Maven project into your IDE and just go—or to build it from the command
line with one simple command.

With the non-Maven approaches, you have to, at minimum, commit your Eclipse
metadata files (.classpath, .project, .settings) and also commit all your
dependencies (JAR files your plugin uses). Or else require your
collaborators to manually download and link in those same dependencies to
Eclipse.

If you are serious about creating something reusable by others, onto which
the community can build and contribute further, I would strongly suggest
using a project management system such as Maven or Gradle.

Regards,
Curtis

P.S. See also http://imagej.net/Distribution

On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 4:04 AM, Peterbauer Thomas <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> On 2015-12-03 09:06, Dimiter Prodanov wrote:
> > Hi Gabriel,
> >
> > I basically use the same strategy as Wilhelm.
> > I typically code a main method so that I could start ImageJ from Eclipse
> by
> > defining a launcher
> >
> > public static void main(String[] args) {
> > try {
> >      File f=new File(args[0]);
> >      if (f.exists() && f.isDirectory() ) {
> >      System.setProperty("plugins.dir", args[0]);
> >      new ImageJ();
> >      } else {
> >      throw new IllegalArgumentException();
> >      }
> >      }
> >      catch (Exception ex) {
> >      IJ.log("plugins.dir misspecified\n");
> >      ex.printStackTrace();
> >      }
> > }
>
> Another very convenient way to launch ImageJ from within Eclipse for
> simple projects without Maven is to define ImageJ either as an external
> JAR or user library:
>
> Project > Properties > Java Build Path > choose the Libraries tab > Add
> External JARs...
>
> and specify the path to ij.jar (you may use your normal ImageJ path).
> You can even define ImageJ as User Library  (Add Library...) and/or
> attach source/javadocs to the external JAR/library.
>
> Then, make a run configuration:
>
> Project > Properties > Run/Debug Settings > New... (click Java Application)
>
> In the "Main" tab of the dialog popping up, clicck "Search" to find the
> main class of the ij.jar defined as external JAR/library. Eclipse will
> find ij.ImageJ.
>
> In the "Arguments" tab, pass the ImageJ "-run" command to launch your
> plugin:
>
> -run "NameOfMyPlugin"
>
> You can give more arguments (-ijpath to specify the plugin directory,
> -macro to run a macro to load a sample image before calling your plugin
> etc.). Exceptions and System.out messages are redirected to the console
> in Eclipse.
>
> Best,
> Thomas
>
>
>
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Re: Eclipse woes

Avital Steinberg
Hi Curtis,
Yes - this is super important. The bottom line is whether or not people can
use it, and quite often, for it to be useful it has to be tweaked a little.

Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us,
Avital

On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 7:28 PM, Curtis Rueden <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> All of these approaches are fine... until you want to share your code with
> others.
>
> Using Maven avoids IDE lock-in. Others can use whichever tool they prefer
> to easily build, develop and run your code. It is super easy to import a
> Maven project into your IDE and just go—or to build it from the command
> line with one simple command.
>
> With the non-Maven approaches, you have to, at minimum, commit your Eclipse
> metadata files (.classpath, .project, .settings) and also commit all your
> dependencies (JAR files your plugin uses). Or else require your
> collaborators to manually download and link in those same dependencies to
> Eclipse.
>
> If you are serious about creating something reusable by others, onto which
> the community can build and contribute further, I would strongly suggest
> using a project management system such as Maven or Gradle.
>
> Regards,
> Curtis
>
> P.S. See also http://imagej.net/Distribution
>
> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 4:04 AM, Peterbauer Thomas <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > On 2015-12-03 09:06, Dimiter Prodanov wrote:
> > > Hi Gabriel,
> > >
> > > I basically use the same strategy as Wilhelm.
> > > I typically code a main method so that I could start ImageJ from
> Eclipse
> > by
> > > defining a launcher
> > >
> > > public static void main(String[] args) {
> > > try {
> > >      File f=new File(args[0]);
> > >      if (f.exists() && f.isDirectory() ) {
> > >      System.setProperty("plugins.dir", args[0]);
> > >      new ImageJ();
> > >      } else {
> > >      throw new IllegalArgumentException();
> > >      }
> > >      }
> > >      catch (Exception ex) {
> > >      IJ.log("plugins.dir misspecified\n");
> > >      ex.printStackTrace();
> > >      }
> > > }
> >
> > Another very convenient way to launch ImageJ from within Eclipse for
> > simple projects without Maven is to define ImageJ either as an external
> > JAR or user library:
> >
> > Project > Properties > Java Build Path > choose the Libraries tab > Add
> > External JARs...
> >
> > and specify the path to ij.jar (you may use your normal ImageJ path).
> > You can even define ImageJ as User Library  (Add Library...) and/or
> > attach source/javadocs to the external JAR/library.
> >
> > Then, make a run configuration:
> >
> > Project > Properties > Run/Debug Settings > New... (click Java
> Application)
> >
> > In the "Main" tab of the dialog popping up, clicck "Search" to find the
> > main class of the ij.jar defined as external JAR/library. Eclipse will
> > find ij.ImageJ.
> >
> > In the "Arguments" tab, pass the ImageJ "-run" command to launch your
> > plugin:
> >
> > -run "NameOfMyPlugin"
> >
> > You can give more arguments (-ijpath to specify the plugin directory,
> > -macro to run a macro to load a sample image before calling your plugin
> > etc.). Exceptions and System.out messages are redirected to the console
> > in Eclipse.
> >
> > Best,
> > Thomas
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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> >
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Re: Eclipse woes

David Faulstich Diniz Reis
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Just use maven and be happy.

But if u can use intellij ide u will be happier! :)

Em segunda-feira, 23 de novembro de 2015, Gabriel Landini <
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> Hi, until now I have used just a simple text editor to code plugins, but
> things are starting to get more complex so I decided to  install Eclipse
> (Mars.1 under linux). I managed to create a new project and import the
> ImageJ1
> code and it runs fine.
>
> However I found 2 issues that I am not sure how to resolve:
>
> 1. This one is minor: running from Eclipse, the Help>About ImageJ does not
> show the background image as in the compiled version. Is that normal? If
> not,
> how do I resolve it?
>
> 2.  I am stuck on how to create a new plugin with this setup.  The
> tutorials
> online are for much older versions of Eclipse and things do not seem to be
> where they should.
> Do I just add a new Project? Do I add sub-folders under the /src/plugin/
> folder? Do I need to create a new build folder for the plugins?
>
> Many thanks for any hints.
> Cheers
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> Gabriel
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