Hi All -
I'm trying to stitch a set of Z-stacks acquired in Micro-Manager using the Grid/Collection stitching plugin in Fiji. Everything seems to work OK except that the final stitched image is composed of repeated copies of the first image stack in the set rather than stitching the actual stacks at each position. However, the positions of these copies look like they are in the correct place for the locations of the actual tiles. Can anyone provide insight as to what may be going wrong? I've attached the log file and can provide more information as needed. Thanks, Kurt -- ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html Log.txt (41K) Download Attachment |
Hi Kurt,
> the final stitched image is composed of repeated copies of the first > image stack Grid/Collection stitching uses Bio-Formats to read the stage position information as well as the pixels. If you run File > Import > Bio-Formats and point it at your Micro-Manager .txt file, does it properly detect all your stage positions? Do they open correctly individually? If not, this is a Bio-Formats bug rather than a problem with the Stitching plugins. Regards, Curtis On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Kurt Thorn <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hi All - > > I'm trying to stitch a set of Z-stacks acquired in Micro-Manager using the > Grid/Collection stitching plugin in Fiji. Everything seems to work OK > except that the final stitched image is composed of repeated copies of the > first image stack in the set rather than stitching the actual stacks at > each position. However, the positions of these copies look like they are > in the correct place for the locations of the actual tiles. Can anyone > provide insight as to what may be going wrong? I've attached the log file > and can provide more information as needed. > > Thanks, > Kurt > > -- > ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.**html<http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html> > -- ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html |
On 10/17/2013 1:41 PM, Curtis Rueden wrote:
> Hi Kurt, > >> the final stitched image is composed of repeated copies of the first >> image stack > Grid/Collection stitching uses Bio-Formats to read the stage position > information as well as the pixels. If you run File > Import > Bio-Formats > and point it at your Micro-Manager .txt file, does it properly detect all > your stage positions? Do they open correctly individually? If not, this is > a Bio-Formats bug rather than a problem with the Stitching plugins. > > Regards, > Curtis option, and pointing it to a folder of tif stacks with the naming convention tumor_grid_animal04_2_MMStack_1-Pos_{xxx}_{yyy}.ome.tif and the stitching plugin reports that it opens each stack separately, so I think that's working OK? But perhaps it's a more subtle interaction between BioFormats and the stitching plugin? Thanks, Kurt > > On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Kurt Thorn <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> Hi All - >> >> I'm trying to stitch a set of Z-stacks acquired in Micro-Manager using the >> Grid/Collection stitching plugin in Fiji. Everything seems to work OK >> except that the final stitched image is composed of repeated copies of the >> first image stack in the set rather than stitching the actual stacks at >> each position. However, the positions of these copies look like they are >> in the correct place for the locations of the actual tiles. Can anyone >> provide insight as to what may be going wrong? I've attached the log file >> and can provide more information as needed. >> >> Thanks, >> Kurt >> >> -- >> ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.**html<http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html> >> > -- > ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html > > -- ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html |
Hi. I have noticed this behavior as well. It happen to me when trying to
stitch Leica tif tile files when .lei file is in the same folder and thus files are read by Bioformats. I did not had a time to examine a problem more deep. Sincerely Schebique Dne 17.10.2013 23:01 "Kurt Thorn" <[hidden email]> napsal(a): > On 10/17/2013 1:41 PM, Curtis Rueden wrote: > >> Hi Kurt, >> >> the final stitched image is composed of repeated copies of the first >>> image stack >>> >> Grid/Collection stitching uses Bio-Formats to read the stage position >> information as well as the pixels. If you run File > Import > Bio-Formats >> and point it at your Micro-Manager .txt file, does it properly detect all >> your stage positions? Do they open correctly individually? If not, this is >> a Bio-Formats bug rather than a problem with the Stitching plugins. >> >> Regards, >> Curtis >> > I'm running grid/collection stitching with the Filename defined position > option, and pointing it to a folder of tif stacks with the naming > convention tumor_grid_animal04_2_MMStack_**1-Pos_{xxx}_{yyy}.ome.tif and > the stitching plugin reports that it opens each stack separately, so I > think that's working OK? But perhaps it's a more subtle interaction between > BioFormats and the stitching plugin? > > Thanks, > Kurt > >> >> On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Kurt Thorn <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> Hi All - >>> >>> I'm trying to stitch a set of Z-stacks acquired in Micro-Manager using >>> the >>> Grid/Collection stitching plugin in Fiji. Everything seems to work OK >>> except that the final stitched image is composed of repeated copies of >>> the >>> first image stack in the set rather than stitching the actual stacks at >>> each position. However, the positions of these copies look like they are >>> in the correct place for the locations of the actual tiles. Can anyone >>> provide insight as to what may be going wrong? I've attached the log file >>> and can provide more information as needed. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Kurt >>> >>> -- >>> ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.****html<http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.**html> >>> <http://imagej.nih.gov/**ij/list.html<http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html> >>> > >>> >>> -- >> ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.**html<http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html> >> >> >> > -- > ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.**html<http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html> > -- ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html |
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Hi Kurt,
> I'm running grid/collection stitching with the Filename defined > position option, and pointing it to a folder of tif stacks with the > naming convention > tumor_grid_animal04_2_MMStack_1-Pos_{xxx}_{yyy}.ome.tif and the > stitching plugin reports that it opens each stack separately, so I > think that's working OK? What happens if you select "Positions from file" for the Type, and "Defined by image metadata" for the Order? I will also reiterate my previous question: > If you run File > Import > Bio-Formats and point it at your > Micro-Manager .txt file, does it properly detect all your stage > positions? Regards, Curtis On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Kurt Thorn <[hidden email]> wrote: > On 10/17/2013 1:41 PM, Curtis Rueden wrote: > >> Hi Kurt, >> >> the final stitched image is composed of repeated copies of the first >>> image stack >>> >> Grid/Collection stitching uses Bio-Formats to read the stage position >> information as well as the pixels. If you run File > Import > Bio-Formats >> and point it at your Micro-Manager .txt file, does it properly detect all >> your stage positions? Do they open correctly individually? If not, this is >> a Bio-Formats bug rather than a problem with the Stitching plugins. >> >> Regards, >> Curtis >> > I'm running grid/collection stitching with the Filename defined position > option, and pointing it to a folder of tif stacks with the naming > convention tumor_grid_animal04_2_MMStack_**1-Pos_{xxx}_{yyy}.ome.tif and > the stitching plugin reports that it opens each stack separately, so I > think that's working OK? But perhaps it's a more subtle interaction between > BioFormats and the stitching plugin? > > Thanks, > Kurt > >> >> On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Kurt Thorn <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> Hi All - >>> >>> I'm trying to stitch a set of Z-stacks acquired in Micro-Manager using >>> the >>> Grid/Collection stitching plugin in Fiji. Everything seems to work OK >>> except that the final stitched image is composed of repeated copies of >>> the >>> first image stack in the set rather than stitching the actual stacks at >>> each position. However, the positions of these copies look like they are >>> in the correct place for the locations of the actual tiles. Can anyone >>> provide insight as to what may be going wrong? I've attached the log file >>> and can provide more information as needed. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Kurt >>> >>> -- >>> ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.****html<http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.**html> >>> <http://imagej.nih.gov/**ij/list.html<http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html> >>> > >>> >>> -- >> ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.**html<http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html> >> >> >> > -- > ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.**html<http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html> > -- ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html |
Hi Curtis -
On 10/18/2013 12:16 PM, Curtis Rueden wrote: > Hi Kurt, > >> I'm running grid/collection stitching with the Filename defined >> position option, and pointing it to a folder of tif stacks with the >> naming convention >> tumor_grid_animal04_2_MMStack_1-Pos_{xxx}_{yyy}.ome.tif and the >> stitching plugin reports that it opens each stack separately, so I >> think that's working OK? > What happens if you select "Positions from file" for the Type, and "Defined > by image metadata" for the Order? This loads and stitches the images properly. > > I will also reiterate my previous question: >> If you run File > Import > Bio-Formats and point it at your >> Micro-Manager .txt file, does it properly detect all your stage >> positions? If I point it to the first ome.tif file, it brings up a dialog asking for the positions I want to open. If I point it to the first metadata.txt file, I get an error: Unknown file format. Thanks for your help! Kurt > Regards, > Curtis > > > On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Kurt Thorn <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> On 10/17/2013 1:41 PM, Curtis Rueden wrote: >> >>> Hi Kurt, >>> >>> the final stitched image is composed of repeated copies of the first >>>> image stack >>>> >>> Grid/Collection stitching uses Bio-Formats to read the stage position >>> information as well as the pixels. If you run File > Import > Bio-Formats >>> and point it at your Micro-Manager .txt file, does it properly detect all >>> your stage positions? Do they open correctly individually? If not, this is >>> a Bio-Formats bug rather than a problem with the Stitching plugins. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Curtis >>> >> I'm running grid/collection stitching with the Filename defined position >> option, and pointing it to a folder of tif stacks with the naming >> convention tumor_grid_animal04_2_MMStack_**1-Pos_{xxx}_{yyy}.ome.tif and >> the stitching plugin reports that it opens each stack separately, so I >> think that's working OK? But perhaps it's a more subtle interaction between >> BioFormats and the stitching plugin? >> >> Thanks, >> Kurt >> >>> On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Kurt Thorn <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> >>> Hi All - >>>> I'm trying to stitch a set of Z-stacks acquired in Micro-Manager using >>>> the >>>> Grid/Collection stitching plugin in Fiji. Everything seems to work OK >>>> except that the final stitched image is composed of repeated copies of >>>> the >>>> first image stack in the set rather than stitching the actual stacks at >>>> each position. However, the positions of these copies look like they are >>>> in the correct place for the locations of the actual tiles. Can anyone >>>> provide insight as to what may be going wrong? I've attached the log file >>>> and can provide more information as needed. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Kurt >>>> >>>> -- >>>> ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.****html<http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.**html> >>>> <http://imagej.nih.gov/**ij/list.html<http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html> >>>> -- >>> ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.**html<http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html> >>> >>> >>> >> -- >> ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.**html<http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html> >> > -- > ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html > > -- ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html |
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Hi Kurt,
> I just wanted to thank you with your help with getting this working. You're very welcome! Glad to hear it is working. I hope you do not mind me CCing the ImageJ and OME lists. People often ask for help solving technical problems, but rarely share their success stories publicly. It helps the morale of the team, as well as future funding, to know that people find these tools useful. > I just did some extensive testing and using the image metadata results > in great stitching of Micro-Manager data. I'm impressed by the > interoperability of all these different packages, which I guess owes a > lot to Bioformats and the OME-TIFF file format. There are many people who deserve thanks: Stephan Preibisch did the hard work of authoring the stitching plugins. http://fiji.sc/Stitching#Citation Melissa Linkert, the primary Bio-Formats developer, implemented the Micro-Manager reader, which makes extraction of the stage position metadata possible. http://openmicroscopy.org/site/about/licensing-attribution/citing-ome Johannes Schindelin, the maintainer of Fiji, strives daily to ensure that Fiji's various components remain compatible with one another. http://fiji.sc/How_to_cite_Fiji%3F The Micro-Manager team has done outstanding work and been very collaborative. http://www.micro-manager.org/wiki/Citing_Micro-Manager The Open Microscopy Environment team maintains the OME-XML schema, which as you point out is how the Stitching plugin can read stage position metadata from so many different formats using Bio-Formats. http://openmicroscopy.org/site/about/licensing-attribution/citing-ome Continuing development of these projects would not be possible without the efforts of the PIs, including Pavel Tomancak, Kevin Eliceiri and Jason Swedlow. In particular, they organize invaluable "hackathons" where developers get together to work on such interoperability. IIRC, it was at one such event where Stephan made the Stitching plugins use Bio-Formats, with the help of Melissa and myself. Regards, Curtis On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Kurt Thorn <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hi Curtis - > > I just wanted to thank you with your help with getting this working. I > just did some extensive testing and using the image metadata results in > great stitching of Micro-Manager data. I'm impressed by the > interoperability of all these different packages, which I guess owes a lot > to Bioformats and the OME-TIFF file format. > > Thanks, > Kurt > > > On 10/18/2013 12:16 PM, Curtis Rueden wrote: > >> Hi Kurt, >> >> I'm running grid/collection stitching with the Filename defined >>> position option, and pointing it to a folder of tif stacks with the >>> naming convention >>> tumor_grid_animal04_2_MMStack_**1-Pos_{xxx}_{yyy}.ome.tif and the >>> stitching plugin reports that it opens each stack separately, so I >>> think that's working OK? >>> >> What happens if you select "Positions from file" for the Type, and >> "Defined >> by image metadata" for the Order? >> >> I will also reiterate my previous question: >> >>> If you run File > Import > Bio-Formats and point it at your >>> Micro-Manager .txt file, does it properly detect all your stage >>> positions? >>> >> Regards, >> Curtis >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Kurt Thorn <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> On 10/17/2013 1:41 PM, Curtis Rueden wrote: >>> >>> Hi Kurt, >>>> >>>> the final stitched image is composed of repeated copies of the first >>>> >>>>> image stack >>>>> >>>>> Grid/Collection stitching uses Bio-Formats to read the stage position >>>> information as well as the pixels. If you run File > Import > >>>> Bio-Formats >>>> and point it at your Micro-Manager .txt file, does it properly detect >>>> all >>>> your stage positions? Do they open correctly individually? If not, this >>>> is >>>> a Bio-Formats bug rather than a problem with the Stitching plugins. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Curtis >>>> >>>> I'm running grid/collection stitching with the Filename defined >>> position >>> option, and pointing it to a folder of tif stacks with the naming >>> convention tumor_grid_animal04_2_MMStack_****1-Pos_{xxx}_{yyy}.ome.tif >>> and >>> >>> the stitching plugin reports that it opens each stack separately, so I >>> think that's working OK? But perhaps it's a more subtle interaction >>> between >>> BioFormats and the stitching plugin? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Kurt >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Kurt Thorn <[hidden email]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi All - >>>> >>>>> I'm trying to stitch a set of Z-stacks acquired in Micro-Manager using >>>>> the >>>>> Grid/Collection stitching plugin in Fiji. Everything seems to work OK >>>>> except that the final stitched image is composed of repeated copies of >>>>> the >>>>> first image stack in the set rather than stitching the actual stacks at >>>>> each position. However, the positions of these copies look like they >>>>> are >>>>> in the correct place for the locations of the actual tiles. Can anyone >>>>> provide insight as to what may be going wrong? I've attached the log >>>>> file >>>>> and can provide more information as needed. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Kurt >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.******html<http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.****html> >>>>> <http://imagej.nih.**gov/ij/list.**html<http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.**html> >>>>> > >>>>> <http://imagej.nih.gov/**ij/**list.html<http://imagej.nih.gov/**ij/list.html> >>>>> <http://imagej.nih.**gov/ij/list.html<http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html> >>>>> > >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>> ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.****html<http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.**html> >>>> <http://imagej.nih.gov/**ij/list.html<http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html> >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>> ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.****html<http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.**html> >>> <http://imagej.nih.gov/**ij/list.html<http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html> >>> > >>> >>> -- >> ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.**html<http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html> >> >> >> > > -- ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html |
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I have not used stacks or batches, but when I use filename defined positions for stitching in imageJ or Fiji, y is placed before x. Also it is just one y or x for the number, even if it is multidigit.
Peter AMT On Friday, October 18, 2013 6:58 PM, Kurt Thorn <[hidden email]> wrote: Hi Curtis - On 10/18/2013 12:16 PM, Curtis Rueden wrote: > Hi Kurt, > >> I'm running grid/collection stitching with the Filename defined >> position option, and pointing it to a folder of tif stacks with the >> naming convention >> tumor_grid_animal04_2_MMStack_1-Pos_{xxx}_{yyy}.ome.tif and the >> stitching plugin reports that it opens each stack separately, so I >> think that's working OK? > What happens if you select "Positions from file" for the Type, and "Defined > by image metadata" for the Order? This loads and stitches the images properly. > > I will also reiterate my previous question: >> If you run File > Import > Bio-Formats and point it at your >> Micro-Manager .txt file, does it properly detect all your stage >> positions? If I point it to the first ome.tif file, it brings up a dialog asking for the positions I want to open. If I point it to the first metadata.txt file, I get an error: Unknown file format. Thanks for your help! Kurt > Regards, > Curtis > > > On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Kurt Thorn <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> On 10/17/2013 1:41 PM, Curtis Rueden wrote: >> >>> Hi Kurt, >>> >>> the final stitched image is composed of repeated copies of the first >>>> image stack >>>> >>> Grid/Collection stitching uses Bio-Formats to read the stage position >>> information as well as the pixels. If you run File > Import > Bio-Formats >>> and point it at your Micro-Manager .txt file, does it properly detect all >>> your stage positions? Do they open correctly individually? If not, this is >>> a Bio-Formats bug rather than a problem with the Stitching plugins. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Curtis >>> >> I'm running grid/collection stitching with the Filename defined position >> option, and pointing it to a folder of tif stacks with the naming >> convention tumor_grid_animal04_2_MMStack_**1-Pos_{xxx}_{yyy}.ome.tif and >> the stitching plugin reports that it opens each stack separately, so I >> think that's working OK? But perhaps it's a more subtle interaction between >> BioFormats and the stitching plugin? >> >> Thanks, >> Kurt >> >>> On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Kurt Thorn <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> >>> Hi All - >>>> I'm trying to stitch a set of Z-stacks acquired in Micro-Manager using >>>> the >>>> Grid/Collection stitching plugin in Fiji. Everything seems to work OK >>>> except that the final stitched image is composed of repeated copies of >>>> the >>>> first image stack in the set rather than stitching the actual stacks at >>>> each position. However, the positions of these copies look like they are >>>> in the correct place for the locations of the actual tiles. Can anyone >>>> provide insight as to what may be going wrong? I've attached the log file >>>> and can provide more information as needed. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Kurt >>>> >>>> -- >>>> ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.****html<http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.**html> >>>> <http://imagej.nih.gov/**ij/list.html<http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html> >>>> -- >>> ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.**html<http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html> >>> >>> >>> >> -- >> ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.**html<http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html> >> > -- > ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html > > -- ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html -- ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html |
Just to provide an update on this - stitching Micro-Manager images using
the metadata in the OME-TIFF works very well and appears to be quite robust. I've written up a short description of how to do it: http://nic.ucsf.edu/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=image_stitching_in_micro-manager https://micro-manager.org/wiki/Stitching_Micro-Manager_Images Kurt On 10/30/2013 2:36 PM, Peter Blankenheim wrote: > I have not used stacks or batches, but when I use filename defined positions for stitching in imageJ or Fiji, y is placed before x. Also it is just one y or x for the number, even if it is multidigit. > Peter > AMT > > > > > On Friday, October 18, 2013 6:58 PM, Kurt Thorn <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Hi Curtis - > > On 10/18/2013 12:16 PM, Curtis Rueden wrote: >> Hi Kurt, >> >>> I'm running grid/collection stitching with the Filename defined >>> position option, and pointing it to a folder of tif stacks with the >>> naming convention >>> tumor_grid_animal04_2_MMStack_1-Pos_{xxx}_{yyy}.ome.tif and the >>> stitching plugin reports that it opens each stack separately, so I >>> think that's working OK? >> What happens if you select "Positions from file" for the Type, and "Defined >> by image metadata" for the Order? > This loads and stitches the images properly. >> I will also reiterate my previous question: >>> If you run File > Import > Bio-Formats and point it at your >>> Micro-Manager .txt file, does it properly detect all your stage >>> positions? > If I point it to the first ome.tif file, it brings up a dialog asking > for the positions I want to open. If I point it to the first > metadata.txt file, I get an error: Unknown file format. > > Thanks for your help! > > Kurt > >> Regards, -- ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html |
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Hi Curtis,
Just had the opportunity to read your comments to Kurt. From my perspective, Jerome helped me significantly regarding a very simple solution to my ultrasound images. From my reading of all the tasks that people do in multiple areas of science and medicine, mine is baby steps. However, it has helped a lot. As a result, I would like to thank you all for your help, comments in different threads and actually providing ImageJ software. I will now turn my attention to measuring areas of blood vessels within tendons. Thank you very much all of you. Regards Dr Simon Locke MBBS BMed Sci FACSP FFSEM (UK) FRACGP Sport and Exercise Physician Bendigo Orthopaedic and Sports Medicine Clinic 176 Barnard st, Bendigo, Victoria, 3550 P:613 5442 5288 F:613 5442 5399 W:sportmovementcentre.com Centre for Sport+ Movement is now on Facebook http://www.facebook.com -----Original Message----- From: ImageJ Interest Group [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Curtis Rueden Sent: Thursday, 31 October 2013 5:54 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: Problem with Grid/Collection stitching plugin Hi Kurt, > I just wanted to thank you with your help with getting this working. You're very welcome! Glad to hear it is working. I hope you do not mind me CCing the ImageJ and OME lists. People often ask for help solving technical problems, but rarely share their success stories publicly. It helps the morale of the team, as well as future funding, to know that people find these tools useful. > I just did some extensive testing and using the image metadata results > in great stitching of Micro-Manager data. I'm impressed by the > interoperability of all these different packages, which I guess owes a > lot to Bioformats and the OME-TIFF file format. There are many people who deserve thanks: Stephan Preibisch did the hard work of authoring the stitching plugins. http://fiji.sc/Stitching#Citation Melissa Linkert, the primary Bio-Formats developer, implemented the Micro-Manager reader, which makes extraction of the stage position metadata possible. http://openmicroscopy.org/site/about/licensing-attribution/citing-ome Johannes Schindelin, the maintainer of Fiji, strives daily to ensure that Fiji's various components remain compatible with one another. http://fiji.sc/How_to_cite_Fiji%3F The Micro-Manager team has done outstanding work and been very collaborative. http://www.micro-manager.org/wiki/Citing_Micro-Manager The Open Microscopy Environment team maintains the OME-XML schema, which as you point out is how the Stitching plugin can read stage position metadata from so many different formats using Bio-Formats. http://openmicroscopy.org/site/about/licensing-attribution/citing-ome Continuing development of these projects would not be possible without the efforts of the PIs, including Pavel Tomancak, Kevin Eliceiri and Jason Swedlow. In particular, they organize invaluable "hackathons" where developers get together to work on such interoperability. IIRC, it was at one such event where Stephan made the Stitching plugins use Bio-Formats, with the help of Melissa and myself. Regards, Curtis On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Kurt Thorn <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hi Curtis - > > I just wanted to thank you with your help with getting this working. > I just did some extensive testing and using the image metadata results > in great stitching of Micro-Manager data. I'm impressed by the > interoperability of all these different packages, which I guess owes a > lot to Bioformats and the OME-TIFF file format. > > Thanks, > Kurt > > > On 10/18/2013 12:16 PM, Curtis Rueden wrote: > >> Hi Kurt, >> >> I'm running grid/collection stitching with the Filename defined >>> position option, and pointing it to a folder of tif stacks with the >>> naming convention >>> tumor_grid_animal04_2_MMStack_**1-Pos_{xxx}_{yyy}.ome.tif and the >>> stitching plugin reports that it opens each stack separately, so I >>> think that's working OK? >>> >> What happens if you select "Positions from file" for the Type, and >> "Defined by image metadata" for the Order? >> >> I will also reiterate my previous question: >> >>> If you run File > Import > Bio-Formats and point it at your >>> Micro-Manager .txt file, does it properly detect all your stage >>> positions? >>> >> Regards, >> Curtis >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Kurt Thorn <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> On 10/17/2013 1:41 PM, Curtis Rueden wrote: >>> >>> Hi Kurt, >>>> >>>> the final stitched image is composed of repeated copies of the >>>> first >>>> >>>>> image stack >>>>> >>>>> Grid/Collection stitching uses Bio-Formats to read the stage >>>>> position >>>> information as well as the pixels. If you run File > Import > >>>> Bio-Formats and point it at your Micro-Manager .txt file, does it >>>> properly detect all your stage positions? Do they open correctly >>>> individually? If not, this is a Bio-Formats bug rather than a >>>> problem with the Stitching plugins. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Curtis >>>> >>>> I'm running grid/collection stitching with the Filename defined >>> position >>> option, and pointing it to a folder of tif stacks with the naming >>> convention >>> tumor_grid_animal04_2_MMStack_****1-Pos_{xxx}_{yyy}.ome.tif >>> and >>> >>> the stitching plugin reports that it opens each stack separately, so >>> I think that's working OK? But perhaps it's a more subtle >>> interaction between BioFormats and the stitching plugin? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Kurt >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Kurt Thorn <[hidden email]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi All - >>>> >>>>> I'm trying to stitch a set of Z-stacks acquired in Micro-Manager >>>>> using the Grid/Collection stitching plugin in Fiji. Everything >>>>> seems to work OK except that the final stitched image is composed >>>>> of repeated copies of the first image stack in the set rather than >>>>> stitching the actual stacks at each position. However, the >>>>> positions of these copies look like they are in the correct place >>>>> for the locations of the actual tiles. Can anyone provide insight >>>>> as to what may be going wrong? 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