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Using Fiji in Windows 8‏

T.J. Wardill
 

Dear ImageJ users,

I have recently upgraded my laptop and now have Win 8.1. There are so
many changes I have not been able to setup ImageJ/Fiji properly. For
example, I normally associate file extensions such as tif with Fiji. I
have done this but when a tif is double clicked, Fiji opens but not the
image. Are there any tricks to setup Fiji properly and file associations
so that it works as previously in Win 7?

regards Trevor
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Department of Physiology, Development and Neuroscience
Physiology Building, University of Cambridge
Downing Street, Cambridge, CB2 3EG
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Re: Using Fiji in Windows 8‏

Robert Baer
On 9/27/2014 3:20 PM, T.J. Wardill wrote:

>  
>
> Dear ImageJ users,
>
> I have recently upgraded my laptop and now have Win 8.1. There are so
> many changes I have not been able to setup ImageJ/Fiji properly. For
> example, I normally associate file extensions such as tif with Fiji. I
> have done this but when a tif is double clicked, Fiji opens but not the
> image. Are there any tricks to setup Fiji properly and file associations
> so that it works as previously in Win 7?
>
> regards Trevor
You can associate as follows:
Right click on .tif image and choose properties (last item)
On General tab (in opens with section) choose CHANGE
Click more options
Click 'Look for another app on this PC'
Navigate to your Fiji directory and click on FijiJ-win64.exe
Click OK and OK to save your changes

It should be associate with .tif

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Re: Using Fiji in Windows 8‏

ctrueden
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Hi Trevor,

> when a tif is double clicked,
> Fiji opens but not the image.

The issue is not Windows 8, but rather a bug in recent versions of Fiji.
Until we fix it, you can try the Life-Line version, which should not
exhibit the problem.

Regards,
Curtis
On Sep 27, 2014 3:30 PM, "T.J. Wardill" <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
>
> Dear ImageJ users,
>
> I have recently upgraded my laptop and now have Win 8.1. There are so
> many changes I have not been able to setup ImageJ/Fiji properly. For
> example, I normally associate file extensions such as tif with Fiji. I
> have done this but when a tif is double clicked, Fiji opens but not the
> image. Are there any tricks to setup Fiji properly and file associations
> so that it works as previously in Win 7?
>
> regards Trevor
> --
>
> DR TREVOR WARDILL (BBSRC David Phillips Fellow)
> Department of Physiology, Development and Neuroscience
> Physiology Building, University of Cambridge
> Downing Street, Cambridge, CB2 3EG
> (M): 07914 945 555 (W): 01223 746 919
> [hidden email]
>
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> ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html
>
>

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Re: Using Fiji in Windows 8‏

Robert Baer
when a tif is double clicked, Fiji opens but not the image.
> The issue is not Windows 8, but rather a bug in recent versions of Fiji.
> Until we fix it, you can try the Life-Line version, which should not
> exhibit the problem.
>
> Regards,
> Curtis
Interestingly, I tried my windows 8 instructions by creating an
embryos.tif from the Fiji sample in Fiji on Windows 8 and the
instructions  worked fine with this test.  Garbage in - garbage out :)

After Curtis's post, I tried a .tif saved from GIMP and had same problem
as OP.

It seems that Fiji can still read it's own newly saved .tifs, [and
encouragingly] the GIMP can ALSO read Fiji's newly saved .tif.  Fiji
just behaves badly way with "some" (probably standard) .tifs, like those
saved by the GIMP.

This begs the question, are Fiji-saved .tifs reliable input for most
other programs pending the fix?

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Re: Using Fiji in Windows 8‏

ctrueden
Hi Robert & everyone,

> This begs the question, are Fiji-saved .tifs reliable input for most
> other programs pending the fix?

TIFF files saved using Fiji should be valid. I'm not sure why you see any
difference with TIFFs saved in Fiji vs. other software. The bug is a
blanket problem opening any files passed as parameters.

FWIW, the issue tracking this problem is at:
https://github.com/imagej/imagej-legacy/issues/89

Regards,
Curtis

On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 4:44 PM, Robert Baer <[hidden email]> wrote:

> when a tif is double clicked, Fiji opens but not the image.
>
>> The issue is not Windows 8, but rather a bug in recent versions of Fiji.
>> Until we fix it, you can try the Life-Line version, which should not
>> exhibit the problem.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Curtis
>>
> Interestingly, I tried my windows 8 instructions by creating an
> embryos.tif from the Fiji sample in Fiji on Windows 8 and the instructions
> worked fine with this test.  Garbage in - garbage out :)
>
> After Curtis's post, I tried a .tif saved from GIMP and had same problem
> as OP.
>
> It seems that Fiji can still read it's own newly saved .tifs, [and
> encouragingly] the GIMP can ALSO read Fiji's newly saved .tif.  Fiji just
> behaves badly way with "some" (probably standard) .tifs, like those saved
> by the GIMP.
>
> This begs the question, are Fiji-saved .tifs reliable input for most other
> programs pending the fix?
>
>
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Re: Using Fiji in Windows 8‏

Robert Baer
On 9/29/2014 1:26 PM, Curtis Rueden wrote:

> Hi Robert & everyone,
>
>> This begs the question, are Fiji-saved .tifs reliable input for most
>> other programs pending the fix?
> TIFF files saved using Fiji should be valid. I'm not sure why you see any
> difference with TIFFs saved in Fiji vs. other software. The bug is a
> blanket problem opening any files passed as parameters.
>
> FWIW, the issue tracking this problem is at:
> https://github.com/imagej/imagej-legacy/issues/89
Well, the channel tool gave me some (hypothetical) insight.  Using Fiji
to convert embryos.jpg --> embyos.tif produces a 3 channel composite
image when dragged onto the Fiji icon and it displays as expected.  A
.tif file produced with the GIMP, however,  seems to produce a 4 channel
composite image when dragged onto the Fiji icon.  If this 4th channel is
checked it acts like an alpha channel that is masking the 3 color
channels.   The result is an empty image frame.  The GIMP image does
display correctly if the 3 color channels (1-3) are checked and the
fourth channel is unchecked.

Not knowing the details of .tif format importer, I leave this behavioral
clue to those who are more knowledgeable.

Rob

>
> Regards,
> Curtis
>
> On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 4:44 PM, Robert Baer <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> when a tif is double clicked, Fiji opens but not the image.
>>
>>> The issue is not Windows 8, but rather a bug in recent versions of Fiji.
>>> Until we fix it, you can try the Life-Line version, which should not
>>> exhibit the problem.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Curtis
>>>
>> Interestingly, I tried my windows 8 instructions by creating an
>> embryos.tif from the Fiji sample in Fiji on Windows 8 and the instructions
>> worked fine with this test.  Garbage in - garbage out :)
>>
>> After Curtis's post, I tried a .tif saved from GIMP and had same problem
>> as OP.
>>
>> It seems that Fiji can still read it's own newly saved .tifs, [and
>> encouragingly] the GIMP can ALSO read Fiji's newly saved .tif.  Fiji just
>> behaves badly way with "some" (probably standard) .tifs, like those saved
>> by the GIMP.
>>
>> This begs the question, are Fiji-saved .tifs reliable input for most other
>> programs pending the fix?
>>
>>
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