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Using Image J with iPOD Touch or Smart Phones

Farhan Ahmad-2
Hello,

I am curious to know that if Image J can be transferred (or combined)to
iPOD touch or in smart phones for data processing. As Image J requires JRE,
and iPOD is programmed in Java as well, it makes me wonder that if such a
great tool of image proceesing can be combined with smart phones for point-
of-care diagnostic applications.

Best

Farhan Ahmad

Graduate Student
Michigan State University
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Re: Using Image J with iPOD Touch or Smart Phones

Neal Sikka
Farhan

I am interested in this as well. Be curious as to what you find.

Anyone with experience in analysis of skin lesions with imagej?

Thanks
Neal
------Original Message------
From: Farhan Ahmad
Sender: ImageJ Interest Group
To: [hidden email]
ReplyTo: ImageJ Interest Group
Subject: Using Image J with iPOD Touch or Smart Phones
Sent: Feb 18, 2010 12:12 PM

Hello,

I am curious to know that if Image J can be transferred (or combined)to
iPOD touch or in smart phones for data processing. As Image J requires JRE,
and iPOD is programmed in Java as well, it makes me wonder that if such a
great tool of image proceesing can be combined with smart phones for point-
of-care diagnostic applications.

Best

Farhan Ahmad

Graduate Student
Michigan State University


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Re: Using Image J with iPOD Touch or Smart Phones

John Oreopoulos
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I think using ImageJ with an iPad might be more interesting.

John

On 18-Feb-10, at 12:12 PM, Farhan Ahmad wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I am curious to know that if Image J can be transferred (or  
> combined)to
> iPOD touch or in smart phones for data processing. As Image J  
> requires JRE,
> and iPOD is programmed in Java as well, it makes me wonder that if  
> such a
> great tool of image proceesing can be combined with smart phones  
> for point-
> of-care diagnostic applications.
>
> Best
>
> Farhan Ahmad
>
> Graduate Student
> Michigan State University
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Re: Using Image J with iPOD Touch or Smart Phones

Tomas Karlsson-2
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For the iPhone/iPod platform making imagej run on is defenetly a  
chalange since the platform does not support Java in any form. Some  
other mobile platforms may support Java such as symbian. Note however  
that even if you were able to get imagej running, the gui would still  
be to clumpsy to be usefull not to mention that most mobile platforms  
does not support multiple windows. If you want to create a mobile  
imaging application i would suggest first prototyping the app on a  
computer with a software like imagej and then if i can see the code  
perform the desired results, create a native application for the  
platform in their SDK.

// Tomas Karlsson

20 feb 2010 kl. 01.54 skrev Neal Sikka <[hidden email]>:

> Farhan
>
> I am interested in this as well. Be curious as to what you find.
>
> Anyone with experience in analysis of skin lesions with imagej?
>
> Thanks
> Neal
> ------Original Message------
> From: Farhan Ahmad
> Sender: ImageJ Interest Group
> To: [hidden email]
> ReplyTo: ImageJ Interest Group
> Subject: Using Image J with iPOD Touch or Smart Phones
> Sent: Feb 18, 2010 12:12 PM
>
> Hello,
>
> I am curious to know that if Image J can be transferred (or combined)
> to
> iPOD touch or in smart phones for data processing. As Image J  
> requires JRE,
> and iPOD is programmed in Java as well, it makes me wonder that if  
> such a
> great tool of image proceesing can be combined with smart phones for  
> point-
> of-care diagnostic applications.
>
> Best
>
> Farhan Ahmad
>
> Graduate Student
> Michigan State University
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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Re: Using Image J with iPOD Touch or Smart Phones

Gluender-3
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>Hello,
>
>I am curious to know that if Image J can be transferred (or combined)to
>iPOD touch or in smart phones for data processing. As Image J requires JRE,
>and iPOD is programmed in Java as well,

If you mean iPod than you err!

>it makes me wonder that if such a
>great tool of image proceesing can be combined with smart phones for point-
>of-care diagnostic applications.
>
>Best
>
>Farhan Ahmad
>
>Graduate Student
>Michigan State University

Best
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Re: Using Image J with iPOD Touch or Smart Phones

Juanjo Vega
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According with my experience as mobile devices developer, the jvm
running on mobile devices (I don't know if iPOD, iPAD or whatever
support java or not) is the J2ME version. It is a reduced jvm
implementation for devices with limited resources (mainly memory).

Many of the classes that you can find in the J2EE are not found in the
J2ME version, so you can't upload imageJ on the device expecting it to
work. As far as I remember, once I had to look for a Float class because
there is no support for that in J2ME, so you can imagine about stuff
used by some plugins, like java3D.

I think it would be very hard to try to make imageJ to work in such a
kind of devices, and unuseful as well.

Of course, there are some imaging applications (like codebar readers)
for mobile devices, but I think is better to do what Tomas says.

If you are interested in developing a concrete application, you might
migrate some existing code to J2ME or whatever (maybe from imageJ or
from any plugin).


Best,

Juanjo Vega.

Tomas Karlsson escribió:

> For the iPhone/iPod platform making imagej run on is defenetly a
> chalange since the platform does not support Java in any form. Some
> other mobile platforms may support Java such as symbian. Note however
> that even if you were able to get imagej running, the gui would still
> be to clumpsy to be usefull not to mention that most mobile platforms
> does not support multiple windows. If you want to create a mobile
> imaging application i would suggest first prototyping the app on a
> computer with a software like imagej and then if i can see the code
> perform the desired results, create a native application for the
> platform in their SDK.
>
> // Tomas Karlsson
>
> 20 feb 2010 kl. 01.54 skrev Neal Sikka <[hidden email]>:
>
>> Farhan
>>
>> I am interested in this as well. Be curious as to what you find.
>>
>> Anyone with experience in analysis of skin lesions with imagej?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Neal
>> ------Original Message------
>> From: Farhan Ahmad
>> Sender: ImageJ Interest Group
>> To: [hidden email]
>> ReplyTo: ImageJ Interest Group
>> Subject: Using Image J with iPOD Touch or Smart Phones
>> Sent: Feb 18, 2010 12:12 PM
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I am curious to know that if Image J can be transferred (or combined)to
>> iPOD touch or in smart phones for data processing. As Image J
>> requires JRE,
>> and iPOD is programmed in Java as well, it makes me wonder that if
>> such a
>> great tool of image proceesing can be combined with smart phones for
>> point-
>> of-care diagnostic applications.
>>
>> Best
>>
>> Farhan Ahmad
>>
>> Graduate Student
>> Michigan State University
>>
>>
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

--
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Re: Using Image J with iPOD Touch or Smart Phones

dscho
Hi,

On Mon, 22 Feb 2010, Juanjo Vega wrote:

> According with my experience as mobile devices developer, the jvm
> running on mobile devices (I don't know if iPOD, iPAD or whatever
> support java or not) is the J2ME version.

It has been mentioned already that iPod does not support Java! So you
_should_ know by now.

And that is likely to remain unchanged, as supporting a JVM running
user-provided programs would contradict Apple's business model.

Hth,
Johannes
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Re: Using Image J with iPOD Touch or Smart Phones

Prodanov Dimiter
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I agree with Tomas, regarding the overall utility of the approach.
However, running IJ on a mobile device is an interesting technical challenge per se.
I tried running it on my old Garmin GPS/organizer but run into compatibility problems.
I also noticed some time ago that IJ was present on a MP3 player as a photo viewing application.
So I think it's worth trying.

Best regards,
Dimiter Prodanov

-----Original Message-----
From: Tomas Karlsson [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Saturday 20 February 2010 04:05
Subject: Re: Using Image J with iPOD Touch or Smart Phones

For the iPhone/iPod platform making imagej run on is defenetly a  
chalange since the platform does not support Java in any form. Some  
other mobile platforms may support Java such as symbian. Note however  
that even if you were able to get imagej running, the gui would still  
be to clumpsy to be usefull not to mention that most mobile platforms  
does not support multiple windows. If you want to create a mobile  
imaging application i would suggest first prototyping the app on a  
computer with a software like imagej and then if i can see the code  
perform the desired results, create a native application for the  
platform in their SDK.

// Tomas Karlsson

20 feb 2010 kl. 01.54 skrev Neal Sikka <[hidden email]>:

> Farhan
>
> I am interested in this as well. Be curious as to what you find.
>
> Anyone with experience in analysis of skin lesions with imagej?
>
> Thanks
> Neal
> ------Original Message------
> From: Farhan Ahmad
> Sender: ImageJ Interest Group
> To: [hidden email]
> ReplyTo: ImageJ Interest Group
> Subject: Using Image J with iPOD Touch or Smart Phones
> Sent: Feb 18, 2010 12:12 PM
>
> Hello,
>
> I am curious to know that if Image J can be transferred (or combined)
> to
> iPOD touch or in smart phones for data processing. As Image J  
> requires JRE,
> and iPOD is programmed in Java as well, it makes me wonder that if  
> such a
> great tool of image proceesing can be combined with smart phones for  
> point-
> of-care diagnostic applications.
>
> Best
>
> Farhan Ahmad
>
> Graduate Student
> Michigan State University
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry