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Re: importing .LSM files into ImageJ and losing 1 channel

Posted by Holly Aaron on May 13, 2011; 3:29pm
URL: http://imagej.273.s1.nabble.com/importing-LSM-files-into-ImageJ-and-losing-1-channel-tp3684595p3684597.html

Hi, Dan - Yes, originally she was using 2 tracks, but this was causing
really long acquisition times => 40 minutes per image. By doing the 2
separately - these are fixed samples, so no worries about things crawling
around - it shortened the acquisition time to ~ 8 minutes per acquisition.

Anyway, thank you for the advice on the FIJI - I should have thought of
that! I'll have her get FIJI and also the bioformats.

Thank you, thank you!!
-Holly
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Cancer Research Laboratory
University of California Berkeley
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On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 1:57 AM, Daniel James White <[hidden email]>wrote:

> Hi Holly.
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> On May 13, 2011, at 6:00 AM, IMAGEJ automatic digest system wrote:
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> > Date:    Thu, 12 May 2011 14:43:13 -0700
> > From:    Holly Aaron <[hidden email]>
> > Subject: importing .LSM files into ImageJ and losing 1 channel
> >
> > Dear ImageJ Community - Hello! It has been a long time since I've been on
> > the list. I am happy to see it is still so active!
> >
> > Anyway, one of my users recently ran into an unusual problem with
> importing
> > files from the Zeiss 710 Zen software.  She is doing large tile scans
> (6x8
> > or bigger) z-stacks (20+ z- planes), so the files are 0.5G++.  She is
> doing
> > them in 2 rounds to get 3 colors w/o any cross-talk:  first GFP & Cy5 and
> > then Cy3.  She then adds the Cy3 channel to the other image to create a
> > 3-channel image.
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> this is not the optimal way.
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> you should use 2 different "tracks"
> 1st track has GFP and Cy5
> and the second track has Cy3.
>
> then all the images get saved into the same .lsm file from the get go.
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> Imaging twice then merging the 2 files is an inefficient an derror prone
> way to do it.
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> > She's saving in the .lsm format. All the data (all 3
> > channels) are there if she re-opens in Zen. But when she imports the file
> > into ImageJ, there are only the first 2 channels.
>
> the most versatile way to open .lsm file
> is probably the bio-formats importer plugin , part of the LOCI toos
> package.
>
> If you use Fiji, ist already bundled and up to date and found in
> plugins - loci - bio-formats importer
>
> there is also the LSM toolbox plugins set.
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> > Does anyone know what
> > could be happening to the 3rd channel?  Are there limits to the file
> sizes
> > that can be opened?
>
> No, there is no limit... only in the RAM your computer....
> and if that gets full, the java virtual machine running imageJ will
> complain loudly to you
> via a nice error message.
>
> I strongly sugest you use 2 or 3 "tracks"
> in the Zen aodtware to do the imaging.
>
> this works great for us and many others.
>
> you can so a multi track (multi channel), z stack, tile scan, time series
> even ....
> and alll gets saved in one huge .lsm file...
>
> cheers
>
> dan
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> >
> > Thanks for any advice or help!
> >
> > -Holly
> > ___________________________
> > Holly L. Aaron
> > Molecular Imaging Center
> > Cancer Research Laboratory
> > University of California Berkeley
> > 251 LSA #2751
> > Berkeley, CA  94720-2751
> > 510.642.2901
> > 510.642.5741 fax
> > [hidden email]
> > http://imaging.berkeley.edu
>
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