Re: Threats on Mac OSX Java ?

Posted by Daniel James White on Oct 22, 2010; 8:20am
URL: http://imagej.273.s1.nabble.com/Threats-on-Mac-OSX-Java-tp3685971p3685983.html

Hi All,


On Oct 22, 2010, at 6:00 AM, IMAGEJ automatic digest system wrote:

> Date:    Thu, 21 Oct 2010 15:50:38 +0100
> From:    "[hidden email]"
>         <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: Threats on Mac OSX Java ?
>
> Christophe ,
>
> Thanks for posting this. I'm an ImageJ developer and for some time been concerned about Apple's apparent lack of commitment to Java (no support for iPhone or iPad) and Oracle's acquisition of Sun.
>
> Anyone know if  there are any for 3rd party JVMs planned for Apple OS-X?
>
> Anyone know what Oracle's commitment to Java is?
>
> Anyone know about the intentions for ImageJ (or what ever may replace it) should Java go poof in a cloud of roasted coffee bean scented smoke?
>
> Anyone know what  are the alternatives to Java easy cross platform development?
>
> -- Michael Ellis
>
>
>
> On 21 Oct 2010, at 15:17, Christophe Leterrier wrote:
>
>> I just read an article about the notes accompanying today's Java
>> update for Mac OSX :
>> <a href="http://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#releasenotes/Java/JavaSnowLeopardUpdate3LeopardUpdate8RN/NewandNoteworthy/NewandNoteworthy.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40010380-CH4-SW1">http://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#releasenotes/Java/JavaSnowLeopardUpdate3LeopardUpdate8RN/NewandNoteworthy/NewandNoteworthy.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40010380-CH4-SW1
>>
>> The first paragraph reads :
>>
>> Java Deprecation
>> As of the release of Java for Mac OS X 10.6 Update 3, the version of
>> Java that is ported by Apple, and that ships with Mac OS X, is
>> deprecated.
>> This means that the Apple-produced runtime will not be maintained at
>> the same level, and may be removed from future versions of Mac OS X.
>> The Java runtime shipping in Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard, and Mac OS X
>> 10.5 Leopard, will continue to be supported and maintained through the
>> standard support cycles of those products.
>>
>> I know this list is more oriented toward ImageJ use, but I'm worrying
>> about the future of Java (given Oracle's acquisition of Sun and its
>> attitude towards projects such as Open Office), and specially on the
>> mac platform, which I use primarily, given the evolution of Apple
>> attitude (plus they won't allow Java apps in their "App Store" that
>> will ship with OSX 10.7). As I'm not a Java developer, I just wanted
>> to forward the info to generate thoughts about that potential problem.
>>
>> Christophe
>

I hope apple will give their java code to openJDK
and let them deal with it , as should already have been the case forever.

openJDK works for linux and BSD so a port to OSX is possible, see

http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/bsd-port-dev/2009-January/000499.html

Why apple has control over java on OSX is a mystery they and sun only know
but the community will come up with an open java for OSX one way or the other....

seems works is being sone on that already.

this will probably cause some problems for imageJ in OSX, but then thats nothing new anyway....

Dan


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