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Re: Assessing bird colouration

Posted by Wolfgang Schechinger on Dec 20, 2010; 8:42am
URL: http://imagej.273.s1.nabble.com/Re-Assessing-bird-colouration-tp3686131p3686137.html

Ross,

in that case, a genetic analysis might provide more conclusive results (provided that reference data already exists).

Wo
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> Datum: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 08:14:12 +0000
> Von: Ross Ahmed <[hidden email]>
> An: [hidden email]
> Betreff: Re: Assessing bird colouration

> Many thanks for all the comments so far.
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> I'll just quickly summarise the background to my query. In late November,
> a
> Hoopoe was found dead in Durham, UK and is now stored at the Discovery
> Museum in Newcastle, UK. To my eyes, the dark colouration of the orange on
> the bird suggests it may belong to the subspecies saturata (which
> originates
> from Asia), as opposed to the subspecies epops (which originates from
> Europe). As concluded by Ericson, a key difference between these
> subspecies
> is the colouration of the orange. A photo of the bird can be found here:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/31121749@N06/5276824748/
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>
> If it is possible to produce equivalent results as Ericson, this would
> help
> in deciding which subspecies the bird belongs to (and therefore whether it
> may have originated from Asia or Europe).
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>  
>
> So could anybody provide a step-by-step method, which would produce
> results
> comparable with those of Ericson, for photographing the bird (my camera is
> a
> Canon 40D) and analysing the photos in Image J (or any other program)?
> Robert Dougherty in particular hinted that this may be possible.
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>
> Thanks again
>
>  
>
> Ross
>
>  
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ImageJ Interest Group [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
> Wolfgang Schechinger
> Sent: 20 December 2010 06:51
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: Assessing bird colouration
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>  
>
> If you can *see* the differences between the birds with your eyes in
> pictures taken with a camera that takes RGB images, I think, it should be
> possible. Maybe you need some sort of "standard curve" / reference data
> sets
> created by visual assertion of birds to groups.
>
> Actually this might be a good job for a neuronal network.
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>
> Have fun
>
>  
>
> Wo
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