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Re: Update and survey on the User Guide

Posted by Krs5 on Feb 17, 2014; 3:41pm
URL: http://imagej.273.s1.nabble.com/Update-and-survey-on-the-User-Guide-tp5006542p5006554.html

Dear Tiago,

Thanks for all the work to keep the manual updated. Much appreciated! It is a very useful resource.

Like Jan I prefer the pdf version of the manual.

Looking at your dropbox version I seem not to be able to search for keywords within the text of the manual, only for keywords in the left side panel. Is this correct or do I  miss something?

Best wishes

Kees

Next imageJ workshops: http://www2.le.ac.uk/colleges/medbiopsych/facilities-and-services/cbs/lite/aif/workshops/imagej-workshops-14-and-15-April-2014

Dr Ir K.R. Straatman
Senior Experimental Officer
Centre for Core Biotechnology Services
University of Leicester
http://www2.le.ac.uk/colleges/medbiopsych/facilities-and-services/cbs/lite/aif




-----Original Message-----
From: ImageJ Interest Group [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Tiago Ferreira
Sent: 16 February 2014 22:02
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Update and survey on the User Guide

Hi,

Just to update you all on the status of the user guide:

First the good news: It seems to be a useful and popular resource, so we'd try to update it to IJ v1.48/49.

Now the bad news: It will be very time-consuming to maintaing both editions (the .pdf and the .html) using the strategy that has been used so far[1].

The issue is that (AFAIK) there is no TeX converter that is truly capable of converting the guide seemingly into HTML (presumably because it is a rather complex document), and the the inefficient "grepping"[1] we do to ensure a nice HTML layout breaks as soon as something changes. This gives us 3 choices:

   1) Keep things as they are but focus first on the pdf edition, and only update the html
      once a finalized pdf is ready.

   2) Drop the current typesetting strategy, and use something else more robust that can
      be automated without much fiddling.

   3) Stop the dual edition and drop one of them: i.e., either improve the HTML or the pdf
      document.

Assuming that 3) is not really an option (or is it?), the easiest and fastest thing right now (at least from my own point of view), would be a compromised option 2). E.g., at least one approach[2] seems to work, and this is how the guide could look in the next release:

      https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/136719/testguide/guide.html

Right now is just a sluggish file. The final result would load faster since it would be split across multiple files. But it comes with side effects:

   1) the guide would loose its current look-and-feel
   2) URLs would be page-based, e.g.:
      https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/136719/testguide/guide.html#pf35
      https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/136719/testguide/guide.html#pf72

What do you guys think?
Could you please let us know your thoughts?

-tiago


PS1: Something that may not be known: All the guide files are on GitHub[3]. There is also
     an attempted markdown version[4] (and thus, a plain text one) if someone wants to
     migrate it elsewhere.


PS2: There is a page on GitHub with suggestions on how to contribute[5]. Also, please know
     that even without a reply, all the emails you have written pointing to errors in the
     guide were noted.

[1] https://github.com/tferr/IJ-guide/blob/master/README
[2] http://coolwanglu.github.io/pdf2htmlEX/
[3] https://github.com/tferr/IJ-guide/
[4] https://github.com/tferr/IJ-guide/blob/master/alt-versions/guide.md
[5] https://github.com/tferr/IJ-guide#contributing
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