Re: SAVE THE INTERPRETERS (was: FIJI/IJ2 script editor)

Posted by ctrueden on Jun 24, 2014; 2:52pm
URL: http://imagej.273.s1.nabble.com/FIJI-IJ2-script-editor-tp5008308p5008399.html

Hi Albert & everyone,

> Why gut the working scripting framework to create a new one? It is
> orthogonal to image processing and any data structures.

The reasons we rewrote the scripting system are:

1) Integration with the ImageJ/SciJava module framework. This allows
scripts to declare typed inputs and outputs, which are usable from other
contexts besides just ImageJ.

Example scripts at:
*
https://github.com/imagej/imagej-tutorials/blob/577286474be8399eb38d30d66cf0c35ee50bd929/widget-demo/scripts/Widgets_BeanShell.bsh
*
https://github.com/imagej/imagej-tutorials/blob/577286474be8399eb38d30d66cf0c35ee50bd929/widget-demo/scripts/Widgets_JavaScript.js

Example commands in Java:
*
https://github.com/imagej/imagej-tutorials/tree/577286474be8399eb38d30d66cf0c35ee50bd929/simple-commands/src/main/java

Tutorial explaining modules:
*
https://github.com/imagej/imagej-tutorials/blob/577286474be8399eb38d30d66cf0c35ee50bd929/working-with-modules/src/main/java/WorkingWithModules.java

Such modules are UI agnostic, and already usable from CellProfiler, KNIME,
OMERO and Alida [1].

2) Extensibility. It is now feasible to add additional scripting languages
to ImageJ, because scripting languages are just plugins. Johannes has
already done Scala [2] and we are also half done with R [3]. No code
changes to the core codebase are required. So anyone can add a new ImageJ
update site that adds support for new scripting languages.

Regards,
Curtis

[1] See also: http://developer.imagej.net/2014/04/04/announcing-imagej-ops
[2] https://github.com/scijava/scripting-scala
[3] https://github.com/scijava/scripting-r


On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 6:49 PM, Albert Cardona <[hidden email]> wrote:

> > On Jun 19, 2014, at 6:47 PM, Johannes Schindelin <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Albert,
> >
> >> On Thu, 19 Jun 2014, Albert Cardona wrote:
> >>
> >> As the creator of the interpreters, I would prefer if they were to
> >> remain.
> >
> > But... how dedicated are you in that goal? Will you port them to the
> > SciJava scripting framework, as I had indicated I would not be able
> afford
> > the time?
> >
> > Ciao,
> > Johannes
>
>
> Johannes,
>
> Once you told me "never ever change a working system".
>
> Why gut the working scripting framework to create a new one? It is
> orthogonal to image processing and any data structures.
>
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