Re: ImageJ 2.0.0-rc-11 released

Posted by Herbie-4 on
URL: http://imagej.273.s1.nabble.com/ImageJ-2-0-0-rc-11-released-tp5009074p5009097.html

Sorry  Mark,

but

 > This data will certainly be used to strengthen future
 > funding requests to continue the support of Fiji/ImageJ and its
 > collaborations.

this is an unacceptable reason for gathering user data and I fear there
is no honest reason at all to do so.

 > "keeping these statistics anonymous"

Well, I'm convinced that you and your co-workers will but...

Storing user data is a no no!
Some members of the ImageJ-2 Team are criticizing Google an other data
collecting organizations since long and now...

If user data is gathered/transmitted by IJ-2, I shall, if possible,
comment out this portion of code. An OFF-option is insufficient.

Just my opinion because you were asking for further comments

Herbie

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On 11.08.14 16:11, Mark Hiner wrote:

> Hi Gabriel,
>
>> specially about the "etc." mentioned in that page (?!).
>
> I wrote this section and left it vague at the time because Curtis Rueden
> was in the process of refining the database schema and setting up exactly
> what was tracked. I realize that I should certainly not have used vague
> language when discussing user privacy though, and apologize for that!
>
> The release wiki page is updated to specify exactly what metadata is
> stored: country, java version, language, operating system, time zone,
> update site.
>
>> I think the collection of usage data should be made an OPT IN option and
> so be set OFF by default.
>
> This was a tough decision for us. We certainly don't want anyone to feel
> uncomfortable using ImageJ. But we are committed to keeping these
> statistics anonymous, and this is extremely important information for an
> open source project. This data will certainly be used to strengthen future
> funding requests to continue the support of Fiji/ImageJ and its
> collaborations.
>
> So we decided to make it opt out to get as realistic a view of usage as we
> can, while still allowing anyone who is uncomfortable to disable this
> functionality.
>
> Of course, any further discussion or objections to this feature are
> welcome... I, personally, would like to better understand any specific
> concerns people may have.
>
> Thanks for the feedback,
> Mark
>
> On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 12:44 PM, Gabriel Landini <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
>> On Friday 08 Aug 2014 16:47:33 you wrote:
>>> Today the ImageJ team is proud to announce a new public release candidate
>>> for ImageJ2: version 2.0.0-rc-11.
>>
>> Great to hear the IJ2 has reached rc11.
>>
>> Looking at the New Features page, I think the collection of usage data
>> should
>> be made an OPT IN option and so be set OFF by default.
>>
>> Users might like to exercise some privacy by not being tracked, specially
>> about the "etc." mentioned in that page (?!).
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Gabriel
>>
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