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Re: Chromatin condensation

Posted by Olivier Burri on Aug 03, 2015; 1:54pm
URL: http://imagej.273.s1.nabble.com/Re-Chromatin-condensation-tp5013860p5013869.html

Hi Thomas

This is the contrast of the co-occurrence matrix, not the contrast of the image. Increasing the step size might reverse the trend.


 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ImageJ Interest Group [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
> Lendl,Thomas
> Sent: Monday, August 3, 2015 15:44
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> Subject: Re: Chromatin condensation
>
> Hi Oli,
>
> Thanks a lot for your help, this looks promising. I'm just not sure how to
> interpret the result because It's somehow counterintuitive to have a lower
> contrast in more structured objects. Anyway I'll do a testrun on a couple
> more images to see if the output is consistent.
>
> Best,
> Thomas
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ImageJ Interest Group [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
> Burri Olivier
> Sent: Montag, 03. August 2015 14:50
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: Chromatin condensation
>
> Hi Thomas,
>
> I had some success in calibrating the chromatin condensation using the
> Texture Analyzer http://rsb.info.nih.gov/ij/plugins/texture.html
>
> On your images:
> Cropped the Z stacks to contain slices with nuclei Ran the GLCM Texture
> plugin with a step size of 3 pixels
>
> Looked at the Average Contrast output of each image and got these values
>
> Control 229.209
> Mid 205.782
> Condensed 135.794
>
> What I would suggest is try different step sizes to find the one that
> maximizes the delta between the conditions and perhaps use that.
>
> You can also try the other metrics from the plugin, which have a similar trend
> (Except for Correlation, which makes sense);
>
> Best
>
> Oli
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