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Re: validation for Helsinki committee

Posted by Kenneth Sloan-2 on Dec 24, 2015; 3:36pm
URL: http://imagej.273.s1.nabble.com/validation-for-Helsinki-committee-tp5015279p5015285.html

Ah - so…this is local Institutional Review Board.  The papers in the literature are probably asserting that the research conformed to the Declaration of Helsinki - that’s different.

IRB’s ask all sorts of questions, some justified and some not.  If the calculations done by FIJI affect patient (or human subject) care, they it’s a legitimate question.  If not, not (in my opinion).  One might as well ask if the Java compiler is validated.

Usually these sorts of questions creep in because some commercial package *has* been “validated” and there is pressure applied to insist that everyone in the institution use the same package.  Usually, it’s not legitimate - but that doesn’t mean that it can be ignored.
Usually, you have to write a few sentences in response, and good judgement prevails.

Usually…


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> On Dec 24, 2015, at 09:01 , Aryeh Weiss <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> On 24/12/2015 3:20 PM, Kenneth Sloan wrote:
>> Are you talking about the local Israeli IRB (“Helsinki Committee”), or the “Declaration of Helsinki”?
> I believe that it is the IRB of the Shiba Medical Center.
>
> --aryeh
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>> I think they are connected, but they are not the same.
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>>> On Dec 24, 2015, at 02:46 , Aryeh Weiss <[hidden email]> wrote:
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>>> A Helsinki committee has asked whether FIji/ImageJ have "validation".
>>> This issue was raised a some years ago in this thread:
>>> https://list.nih.gov/cgi-bin/wa.exe?A2=ind0802&L=IMAGEJ&P=R10971&1=IMAGEJ&9=A&I=-3&J=on&d=No+Match%3BMatch%3BMatches&z=4
>>>
>>> I see that ImageJ is used in many publications which contain statements of compliance with  Helsinki committee guidelines.
>>> My question is,   has anyone on the list received such a request , and if so, how did you respond?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance
>>> --aryeh
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