I have used linux in macbook pros since 2005. Works better than MacOSX
Make sure to read the whole thing before you start. You can also dual-boot
> On 11/07/2016 10:29 AM, Curtis Rueden wrote:
>
>> Hi Aryeh,
>>
>> > Is there anything that I can do in either my Fiji configuration or my
>> > Java configuration to improve performance?
>>
>> The only workarounds I know of right now:
>>
>> - On OS X, use Apple Java 6
>>
> I am using some plugins that require Java 7 or higher, so that is no
> longer an option.
>
>> - Use Linux instead of OS X
>>
> I am seriously considering that, but it will require new laptop because
> switching to Linux on a macbook pro is not for the faint of heart. For
> those who wish to try, this is relevant:
>
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/install-linux-macbook-pro/>
>> - Do not open and close many windows
>>
> I will try to use batch mode as much as possible, and it buys some time.
>
>> -- Of course, if you are doing exploratory viz and processing, you can't
>> avoid it
>> - Restart ImageJ after opening and closing many windows
>>
> yes -- I have been doing a lot of that.
> I will add the one other thing that I found -- reducing ImageJ's memory
> appears to buy some time.
>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Curtis
>>
>> --
>> Curtis Rueden
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http://loci.wisc.edu/software>> ImageJ2 lead, Fiji maintainer -
http://imagej.net/User:Rueden>> Did you know ImageJ has a forum?
http://forum.imagej.net/>>
>> Best regards
>
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>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 2:03 AM, Aryeh Weiss <
[hidden email]
>> <mailto:
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>>
>> Hi Curtis
>>
>> Thank you for your reply. It is good to know that there is hope...
>>
>> Is there anything that I can do in either my Fiji configuration or
>> my Java configuration to improve performance?
>>
>> Best regards
>> --aryeh
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/07/2016 1:25 AM, Curtis Rueden wrote:
>>
>> Hi Brandon & Aryeh,
>>
>> I am fairly confident that the cause is attaching AWT menus
>> bars, as I
>> outline here:
>>
http://forum.imagej.net/t/mac-java-speed-issues/304/4?u=ctrueden>>
>> Someone with a technical background needs to investigate the
>> potential
>> solutions to the issue that I mention in that post.
>>
>> In particular, using the Apple-specific
>> "Application.setDefaultMenuBar"
>> method is highly likely to fix the issue. However, as I
>> outline here:
>>
http://forum.imagej.net/t/mac-java-speed-issues/304/8?u=ctrueden>>
>> It would be a bit of work to add code to ImageJ2 to
>> hot-translate the
>> ImageJ 1.x AWT menu bar to a Swing JMenuBar. The good news is
>> that doing
>> this would have multiple advantages:
>>
>> * The "grinding to a halt" performance problem would likely
>> disappear.
>> * We would have a richer menu bar with icons for ImageJ2
>> commands that
>> provide them. ;-)
>> * The menu bar flashing when you switch windows would no
>> longer happen.
>>
>> The downside is that it is more complex internally, since we
>> would need to
>> keep the JMenuBar internally synchronized with the menu bar
>> that IJ1
>> believes is its menu bar (but in actuality is now never
>> actually attached
>> to any windows).
>>
>> There might also be unforeseen technical obstacles with my
>> proposed
>> solution here. All in all, it would probably cost me several
>> days to
>> explore and implement this fix, and I currently have other
>> more urgent
>> priorities. But I will try to make time to do this work early
>> this fall.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Curtis
>>
>>
>> --
>> Curtis Rueden
>> LOCI software architect -
http://loci.wisc.edu/software>> ImageJ2 lead, Fiji maintainer -
http://imagej.net/User:Rueden>> Did you know ImageJ has a forum?
http://forum.imagej.net/>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 5:15 PM, Brandon Hurr
>> <
[hidden email] <mailto:
[hidden email]>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> We've been going back and forth on it a bit on the forums too:
>>
http://forum.imagej.net/t/mac-java-speed-issues/304>>
>> I think we really need to help pin this down for Chris and
>> Wayne so they
>> can make a change. I've simply not had the time recently
>> to dig further,
>> but I intend to when the field season here settles down.
>>
>> It is absolutely related to the changing of windows, but
>> what exactly is
>> causing it is unclear to me. It does not happen when in
>> batch mode. Only
>> when in interactive mode.
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 4:23 AM, Aryeh Weiss
>> <
[hidden email] <mailto:
[hidden email]>> wrote:
>>
>> About a year ago I wrote about Fiji slowing down
>> during use with Java 8
>> and OSX.
>>
>>
http://imagej.1557.x6.nabble.com/java-8-and-OSX-td5013642.html>>
>> As this is still happening, I want to find out if
>> there is any additional
>> information about this.
>>
>> I am now using OSX 10.11.5 with Java 1.8.0_92 (64-bit).
>> I have 16GB RAM.
>>
>> Wayne had noted that menu updates are problematic, and
>> added a parameter
>> SetMenuBarCount: to follow that.
>> I note problems when this is over 50, but I cannot say
>> when it really
>> becomes unusable and I have to quit and start again.
>>
>> One thing that I noticed -- if I allocate 12GB to
>> Fiji, then the problems
>> will start much sooner than if I allocate 10GB to Fiji.
>> So I suspect that some resource that Fiji uses, which
>> is outside of Fiji,
>> is using up memory (but I dont know how to check this).
>>
>> Do people who are running on high-powered Linux
>> machines have this
>>
>> problem?
>>
>> --aryeh
>>
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