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Re: Page Counter Gone, Re-Add

Posted by Herbie on Oct 05, 2016; 3:16pm
URL: http://imagej.273.s1.nabble.com/Page-Counter-Gone-Re-Add-tp5017279p5017298.html

Good day Curtis,

you wrote:
"Such a system would have many advantages, [...] more reliable
statistics about which plugins are actually popular/useful and hence
potentially worthy of dedicated funding."

So you are again planning to introduce some kind of user tracking or
collection of user data.

I repeat what I've written in 2014:
"Storing user data is a no no!"

The reasons for this haven't changed since then.
You cite the corresponding discussion.

Best

Herbie

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Am 05.10.16 um 16:38 schrieb Curtis Rueden:

> Hi Nathan,
>
>> I've never actually used google analytics (suggested in link you
>> sent), is there a simple way to incorporate their tracking if
>> MediaWiki no longer supports their own counter?  I quickly tried
>> pasting several different suggested pieces of code into my webpage but
>> none seemed to add tracking data.  Do you have any experience with it?
>
> If your goal is to measure the popularity of your plugin(s), tracking hits
> on your wiki page is not a very reliable metric. It would probably be
> better to look at the popularity of your update site(s), which can be done
> by analyzing web logs.
>
> We tried to add a feature to ImageJ to measure the popularity of individual
> plugins based on how frequently they are actually executed, which would be
> more accurate. But unfortunately, the ImageJ community rejected these
> improvements [1, 2]. In the long term, ImageJ will probably switch to a
> more granular plugin installation scheme, where plugins are installed by
> users individually on demand, similar to how Icy does it. Such a system
> would have many advantages, including users avoiding perceived "plugin
> bloat" of unused features, as well as more reliable statistics about which
> plugins are actually popular/useful and hence potentially worthy of
> dedicated funding.
>
> Regards,
> Curtis
>
> [1]
> http://imagej.1557.x6.nabble.com/ImageJ-2-0-0-rc-11-released-tt5009074.html
> [2]
> http://imagej.1557.x6.nabble.com/ImageJ-2-0-0-rc-13-released-tt5009146.html
>
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> Curtis Rueden
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> ImageJ2 lead, Fiji maintainer - http://imagej.net/User:Rueden
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>
>
> On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 5:05 PM, Nathan Hotaling <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Hey Curtis thanks for the response.  My boss was asking how many page
>> views we had because he wants it for an annual update on why our code is
>> important in the community and if its gaining traction in a wider audience
>> than just our lab/group.  I think that any metric that would help reflect
>> that would be invaluable.  Are number of downloads or some other metric
>> tracked somewhere?
>>
>> I've never actually used google analytics (suggested in link you sent), is
>> there a simple way to incorporate their tracking if MediaWiki no longer
>> supports their own counter?  I quickly tried pasting several different
>> suggested pieces of code into my webpage but none seemed to add tracking
>> data.  Do you have any experience with it?
>>
>> Nathan
>>
>>
>
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