Re: "OK" "Cancel" buttons swapped?

Posted by Michael Schmid on
URL: http://imagej.273.s1.nabble.com/OK-Cancel-buttons-swapped-tp5020277p5020282.html

Hi Gabriel,

hmmm, this seems to be a huge mess with Linux!

Under Ubuntu 16.04, with its standard Window manager (Unity), all
open/save dialogs etc. have buttons arranged like "Cancel Save" or
"Cancel Open".
This also applies to the ImageJ (AWT, not JFileChooser) Open/Save dialogs.

All native print dialogs: Cancel Print
(not for ImageJ, which has Swing/JDialog style)

Also the majority of the programs that I am aware of use the 'Macintosh
convention' of the action button at the bottom right:

File Manager (Nautilus), right-click move to: Cancel Select
File Manager (Nautilus), right-click compress: Cancel Create
Software Updater: <remind me later> <Install Now>
Synaptic package Manager, search: Cancel Search
Thunderbird menus: Cancel <Action>
Gimp: Cancel OK
Calendar Add event Cancel Done (but at the top!)
Okular (PDF reader9 Configure menus: Cancel OK
Veusz plot progrem, preferences: Cancel OK
Audacity (audio editor): Cancel OK
VLC Media player: Cancel <Action> (e.g. save Preferences)
Terminal, find: close Find
Archive Manager: Cancel <Action>
ClassicMenu Indicator (programs menu), preferences: Cancel Apply
Vesta crystal structure visualization: Cancel OK
Geany programming editor: Cancel OK
TeXWorks LaTex publishing: Cancel OK
Unity Launcher Folders, Preferences: Cancel Apply

WINDOWS-LIKE - that's the minority on my computer:

LibreOffice menus other than open/save/print: OK or action button first,
then cancel.
GHex (hex editor), goto byte: OK Cancel
Arduino (microcontroller programming), goto line: OK Cancel
Scribus (publishing): OK Cancel
jEdit editor: OK Cancel

MIXED:

LyX LateX Editor: OK Cancel, but some notifications with Cancel OK
FileZilla file transfer program, mostly Cancel OK (not 100% consistent)
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For me, it would not hurt very much to revert to the 'Windows style',
but it would be less consistent with most other programs (and the native
ImageJ save/close)

The newest version of Ubuntu Linux uses Gnome - Does anyone know how it
is there?


Michael
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On 13/03/2018 21:08, Gabriel Landini wrote:

> On Tuesday, 13 March 2018 18:31:29 GMT [hidden email] wrote:
>> this was my suggestion to Wayne, to swap the OK and Cancel on Linux:
>> In my experience, most Linux programs [I use Ubuntu 16.04] have OK at
>> the right side, like on the Mac, not at the left side, like under Windows).
>> Sorry if this causes trouble!
>
> I should know better as I also use linux... but I never noticed until now...
> for some reason I kept cancelling when I meant "go".  I now assume that I was
> doing this when I reported that the Duplicate command did not work... it did.
>  
>> Do you have the impression that the "Windows layout" with Cancel at the
>> right side is more common under Linux? Which Linux do you have?
>
> It seems so. I am using Opensuse on KDE. To be sincere I never checked, but
> now that you mentioned it: Libre office, Cancel is always at the bottom or the
> right.
> "Run as root" dialog is: OK, Ignore, Cancel.
> Kwrite: Save, Cancel, or: Open ,Cancel.
> Gwenview: Save, Discard, Cancel, or: Open, Cancel.
> Kmail is: Save, Cancel
>
> When using the JFileChooser in IJ in the daily build
> "File Open" dialog has Open. Cancel.
> "File Save as" dialog has Save. Cancel.
> When *not* using the JFileChooser, it still has Save, Filter Cancel. (!)
>
> As far as I can see there no other program in my install has the Cancel button
> on the left.
>
> Perhaps these settings depend on the windows manager, but I would rather
> prefer that IJ is consistent with itself (now it is not, as of the other
> dialogs are the way round).  I do no know how this is in Ubuntu. Perhaps we
> cannot have it both ways.
>
>> [A related topic: Under Linux, I have the impression that most programs
>> use CTRL-Q for 'Quit', similar to Macs. Currently, ImageJ has the 'Q'
>> shortcut for quitting only on Macs, not under Linux]
>
> Yes, Ctrl-Q is the common key combination.
>
> Cheers
>
> Gabriel
>
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