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Re: Color thresholding and obtaining Lab values

Posted by Rie Sadohara on May 24, 2018; 12:08am
URL: http://imagej.273.s1.nabble.com/Color-thresholding-and-obtaining-Lab-values-tp5020700p5020723.html

Dr. Sheffield,

Thank you for the suggestion. I have tried analyze particles with different
parameters (size and circularity), but it does not recognize the beans
properly. It seems that this is only effective when the image is a
polka-dot like pattern, where dots are clearly separable from the
background. It is possible that the color thresholding does not work quite
well because "it is not yet fully integrated to ImageJ", according to the
User's Manual. But then why are the beans segregated with the yellow lines
after color-thresholding? it is quite puzzling because it should not be so
hard or complicated to specify which area to use in the image and obtain
Lab values from that area.




On 23 May 2018 at 11:39, Joel Sheffield <[hidden email]> wrote:

> You can set a range in Analyze particles to exclude small dots, and even
> certain shape parameters.  Look at the menu options.  Also, consider using
> the watershed procedure to isolate specific beans - if that is important to
> you.
>
>
>
> Joel B. Sheffield, Ph.D
> Department of Biology
> Temple University
> Philadelphia, PA 19122
> Voice: 215 204 8839
> e-mail: [hidden email]
> URL:  *https://bio.cst.temple.edu/~jbs/ <https://bio.cst.temple.edu/~jbs/>
> <http://tinyurl.com/khbouft>*
>
> On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 7:52 PM, Rie Sadohara <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
> > Dr. Sheffiled,
> >
> > Thank you for the suggestion. I have already tried it, but it recognizes
> > numerous small dots (very very tiny compared to the beans) as particles,
> > and ignores the beans in the image. I do not know why, but it does not
> work
> > as I would like it to.
> >
> > Rie
> >
> > On 22 May 2018 at 19:15, Joel Sheffield <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > > How about using Analyze Particles?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Joel B. Sheffield, Ph.D
> > > Department of Biology
> > > Temple University
> > > Philadelphia, PA 19122
> > > Voice: 215 204 8839
> > > e-mail: [hidden email]
> > > URL:  *https://bio.cst.temple.edu/~jbs/ <https://bio.cst.temple.edu/~
> > jbs/>
> > > <http://tinyurl.com/khbouft>*
> > >
> > > On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 5:13 PM, Rie Sadohara <[hidden email]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello all,
> > > >
> > > > I am trying to get Lab values from images of yellow beans. There are
> > some
> > > > black and white parts in the image, so I want to remove those parts
> and
> > > > measure the yellowness of the bean seeds. Below are the steps I took,
> > but
> > > > Lab values are calculated from the entire image. Could someone tell
> me
> > > how
> > > > to do it right?
> > > >
> > > > 1. Open --> Open my photo, which is an RGB color image.
> > > > 2. Image --> Adjust --> Color threshold... --> Then set the threshold
> > of
> > > > L* value to be 71-216 so that the black and white parts will be
> > excluded.
> > > > --> Select.
> > > > 3. The yellow parts (of which I want to know the Lab values) are
> > circled
> > > > with yellow lines now.
> > > > 4.  Image --> Type --> Lab stack.
> > > > 5. Analyze --> Measure. for each stack (L, a, and b)
> > > > 6. The returned Lab values are based on the entire image. It works as
> > > > though there had been no color thresholding.
> > > >
> > > > My understanding is that the parts that are circled with bright
> yellow
> > > > lines after color thresholding are the area that are going to be used
> > for
> > > > Lab measurements? (Please see the attachment. In the image, the
> yellow
> > > > parts (my ROI) are segregated correctly, but how can I get Lab values
> > out
> > > > of this region?)
> > > >
> > > > Any advice would be greatly appreciated,
> > > >
> > > > Rie
> > > >
> > > >
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Graduate Research Assistant
Department of Plant, Soil and Microbial Sciences
Michigan State University
Plant and Soil Science Building
1066 Bogue St, Room A364
East Lansing, MI 48824
Email: *[hidden email] <[hidden email]>*
Find delicious bean recipes here:
*https://colorfulhealthfulflavorfulblog.wordpress.com/
<https://colorfulhealthfulflavorfulblog.wordpress.com/>*
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