Re: What does ImageJ stand for?

Posted by Herbie on
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Thanks Christophe!

"Regarding ownership of the ImageJ name, to my knowledge ImageJ1 (the
software created and developed by Wayne) is and has always been public
domain."

-- First, ImageJ1 is not the name Wayne used for the software he developed.

-- Second and legal questions aside, isn't it simply a question of fairness
(especially in science) to not use the name of a renowned piece of
scientific software for a whole group of software that was in great part
(MB) not written by its author?

Apart from that and as I wrote before, it is generally not a good idea to
(later) use a specific term (ImageJ as a single stand-alone software) _also_
as a generic term (ImageJ as "software ecosystem" comprising differently
named stand-alone software products) in the same field.

Best

Herbie

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lechristophe wrote

> Some elements here from a question you aksed in Image.sc about ImageJ
> trademarking in 2015
> https://forum.image.sc/t/imagej-trademark-of-uw-madison/433
>
> Regarding the logo, the original thread about a new logo and the contest
> is
> here from the end of 2017:
> https://forum.image.sc/t/contest-new-imagej-logo/8485
>
> there's another thread with the voting process that lead to the choice of
> the current logo.
>
> Christophe
>
>
>
> Le dim. 13 juin 2021 à 10:39, Christophe Leterrier <

> christophe.leterrier@

>> a écrit :
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> As a long-time user of ImageJ (I'd say since 2004-ish), I saw ImageJ
>> branching out several times with initiatives such as Fiji (which I have
>> used for a decade), ImageJ2 (which in my understanding kinda morphed into
>> an alternative, unfininished back-end within ImageJ1), sometimes
>> corresponding to funding efforts. I know about other "branches" such as
>> ImageJFX but I don't know them well and they seem less developed.
>>
>> Regarding Fiji, I have read some make the parallel with a Linux
>> distribution, Fiji being an ImageJ "distribution". I think this is an
>> interesting analogy as "Linux" today can mean the kernel or something
>> from
>> the whole ecosystem (whether or not sanctionned by the original creator)?
>>
>> Regarding ownership of the ImageJ name, to my knowledge ImageJ1 (the
>> software created and developed by Wayne) is and has always been public
>> domain. I don't know enough about licenses to be sure what kind of
>> derivative it allows, but in my understanding it is quite flexible.
>>
>> Christophe
>>
>>
>>
>> Le sam. 12 juin 2021 à 13:03, Herbie &lt;

> l16@

> &gt; a écrit :
>>
>>> Dear listers,
>>>
>>> in the sequel to my previous question posted to this list
>>> &lt;Bad URL Removed - see why -
> &gt;>
> https://ees.sps.nih.gov/services/Pages/Anti-Virus.aspx?A2=ind2106&L=IMAGEJ&P=R8899
>>> >,
>>> Kevin Eliceiri immediately provided some information regarding recent
>>> terminological changes.
>>> Because his reply to my original question didn't make it to the list
>>> yet, and because the further email-exchange happened off-list, I should
>>> like to post my understanding of the situation.
>>>
>>> 1.
>>> A longstanding fact is that Wayne Rasband conceptualized, implemented
>>> and continuously extends and maintains the scientific image processing
>>> software that he named "ImageJ" nearly 25 years ago.
>>> (I can't remember that he ever termed it differently.)
>>>
>>> 2.
>>> Only recently however, "ImageJ" appears being used in either a different
>>> or a much wider sense (see the attachments to my previous post).
>>>  From Kevin Eliceiri I now learned that here "ImageJ" stands for what he
>>> calls the "ImageJ ecosystem" that includes all "ImageJ elements" such as
>>> "IJ1, IJ2 and FIJI".
>>>
>>> ----------------------------------------
>>> I feel that it is not a good idea to use "ImageJ" as both, a specific
>>> _as well as_ a generic term, and I'm pretty sure that such usage will
>>> puzzle not only me.
>>>
>>> Did Wayne Rasband agree with the "extended" meaning and usage of
>>> "ImageJ", the name he gave to the software that he developed?
>>> ----------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Apart from that, I'm surprised that IJ1 (that I understand is Wayne
>>> Rasband's ImageJ) or Fiji, both stand-alone software, should be regarded
>>> as elements of ImageJ.
>>>
>>> All opinions welcome...
>>>
>>> Herbie
>>> ::::::::::::::::::::
>>>
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>>>
>>
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