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中村 宗一
Hellow fans,

I would like to insert 3D and stack images produced by image j in Power Point for presentations.  Is these are possible?
I would be happy if someone could help me.

Na

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Re: 3D, Power Point

Kenton Arkill
The easiest way is to save as an .AVI
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Kenton Arkill
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On 7 Sep 2012, at 12:29, 中村 宗一 wrote:

> Hellow fans,
>
> I would like to insert 3D and stack images produced by image j in Power Point for presentations.  Is these are possible?
> I would be happy if someone could help me.
>
> Na
>
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Re: 3D, Power Point, I second the request

Cammer, Michael
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If anyone knows how to reliably play any AVI or other format movie in PowerPoint (running on a PC, although this isn't reliable on Mac too), please tell us how.  Each movie runs once or twice and then the window goes black.  We've had a few IT people here look at this, but have not gotten results.
During presentations I simply switch to Quicktime or ImageJ where I already have the movies queued up, but it would be more professional looking to be able to use PowerPoint.
Thanks!
-Michael



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Subject: 3D, Power Point

Hellow fans,

I would like to insert 3D and stack images produced by image j in Power Point for presentations.  Is these are possible?
I would be happy if someone could help me.

Na

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Re: 3D, Power Point

John Oreopoulos
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I find the simplest way to do this is to save your stack or rotating 3D projection as an .avi file and then insert this saved file into powerpoint directly. Set the animation speed to an appropriate fps setting for easy viewing.

Cheers,

John Oreopoulos
Research Assistant
Spectral Applied Research
Richmond Hill, Ontario
Canada
www.spectral.ca


On 2012-09-07, at 7:29 AM, 中村 宗一 wrote:

> Hellow fans,
>
> I would like to insert 3D and stack images produced by image j in Power Point for presentations.  Is these are possible?
> I would be happy if someone could help me.
>
> Na
>
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Re: 3D, Power Point, I second the request

José María Mateos
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On 07/09/2012 15:52, Cammer, Michael wrote:
> If anyone knows how to reliably play any AVI or other format movie in
> PowerPoint (running on a PC, although this isn't reliable on Mac
> too), please tell us how.  Each movie runs once or twice and then the
> window goes black.  We've had a few IT people here look at this, but
> have not gotten results. During presentations I simply switch to
> Quicktime or ImageJ where I already have the movies queued up, but it
> would be more professional looking to be able to use PowerPoint.

Not exactly what you asked, but if your movie does not need sound, I've
found that an animated GIF does the job most times.

Best,

José María Mateos.

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Re: 3D, Power Point, I second the request

John Oreopoulos
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Michael, does that happen even when you have the movie on loop (set in Powerpoint)? I run Powerpoint 2004 on a Mac and I never run into this problem so long as the movie is set to loop.

John Oreopoulos


On 2012-09-07, at 9:52 AM, Cammer, Michael wrote:

> If anyone knows how to reliably play any AVI or other format movie in PowerPoint (running on a PC, although this isn't reliable on Mac too), please tell us how.  Each movie runs once or twice and then the window goes black.  We've had a few IT people here look at this, but have not gotten results.
> During presentations I simply switch to Quicktime or ImageJ where I already have the movies queued up, but it would be more professional looking to be able to use PowerPoint.
> Thanks!
> -Michael
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ImageJ Interest Group [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of ?? ??
> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 7:29 AM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: 3D, Power Point
>
> Hellow fans,
>
> I would like to insert 3D and stack images produced by image j in Power Point for presentations.  Is these are possible?
> I would be happy if someone could help me.
>
> Na
>
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Re: 3D, Power Point, I second the request

Raman Deep Singh
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Dear Michael,

What PowerPoint version do you have. If it is 2010, May be I can help.

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From: ImageJ Interest Group [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
Cammer, Michael
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 8:53 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: 3D, Power Point, I second the request

If anyone knows how to reliably play any AVI or other format movie in
PowerPoint (running on a PC, although this isn't reliable on Mac too),
please tell us how.  Each movie runs once or twice and then the window
goes black.  We've had a few IT people here look at this, but have not
gotten results.
During presentations I simply switch to Quicktime or ImageJ where I
already have the movies queued up, but it would be more professional
looking to be able to use PowerPoint.
Thanks!
-Michael



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??
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 7:29 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: 3D, Power Point

Hellow fans,

I would like to insert 3D and stack images produced by image j in Power
Point for presentations.  Is these are possible?
I would be happy if someone could help me.

Na

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Re: 3D, Power Point, I second the request

John Hayes
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Hi all,

I also have seen this problem with the ImageJ .avi files particularly on Windows Powerpoint I believe.

Worst case scenario, one can export a ImageJ stack to a directory as a series of .png (or other) images. Then use something like 'mencoder’ from MPlayer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MEncoder) to make a movie in a number of formats including .avi.

Here’s what I’ve used to build an .avi file from PNG images at 60 fps (width and height are 200 pix):
> mencoder mf://*.png -mf w=200:h=200:fps=60:type=png -ovc copy -oac copy -o output.avi

More examples of mencoder’s use are here (see the section on “Encoding from multiple input image files” in particular):
http://web.njit.edu/all_topics/Prog_Lang_Docs/html/mplayer/encoding.html 

For merging audio and video I’ve also used ‘ffmpeg’: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FFmpeg

Best regards,

John

On 7 sept. 2012, at 15:52, Cammer, Michael wrote:

> If anyone knows how to reliably play any AVI or other format movie in PowerPoint (running on a PC, although this isn't reliable on Mac too), please tell us how.  Each movie runs once or twice and then the window goes black.  We've had a few IT people here look at this, but have not gotten results.
> During presentations I simply switch to Quicktime or ImageJ where I already have the movies queued up, but it would be more professional looking to be able to use PowerPoint.
> Thanks!
> -Michael
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ImageJ Interest Group [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of ?? ??
> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 7:29 AM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: 3D, Power Point
>
> Hellow fans,
>
> I would like to insert 3D and stack images produced by image j in Power Point for presentations.  Is these are possible?
> I would be happy if someone could help me.
>
> Na
>
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Re: 3D, Power Point, I second the request

Unruh, Jay-2
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Hi all,

I have found a couple of things that seem to help.  Firstly, on Office 2010, I use .mov files saved out of Quicktime Pro.  These seem to play the best (much to Microsoft's chagrin I'm sure).  Also, Powerpoint 2010 seems to work better than previous versions and shows a transparent movie player control under the movie for manual scrolling which is very nice.  Secondly, I always have problems when running movies from network locations.  I always copy the powerpoint and the movie to the local hard drive and in the same folder.  Thirdly, the smaller the movie, the better.  This is probably why .mov files worked better for me--I was able to compress down to smaller size and still maintain the quality I needed.  Different compression formats didn't seem to change playback performance.

I was also surprised to find that my IT department had mirrored my My Documents folder to a network drive (so as to keep me from not backing up my data).  Copying directly to the c drive or some other non-network location fixed the problem.

Hope this helps.
Jay

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Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 9:16 AM
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On 07/09/2012 15:52, Cammer, Michael wrote:
> If anyone knows how to reliably play any AVI or other format movie in
> PowerPoint (running on a PC, although this isn't reliable on Mac too),
> please tell us how.  Each movie runs once or twice and then the window
> goes black.  We've had a few IT people here look at this, but have not
> gotten results. During presentations I simply switch to Quicktime or
> ImageJ where I already have the movies queued up, but it would be more
> professional looking to be able to use PowerPoint.

Not exactly what you asked, but if your movie does not need sound, I've found that an animated GIF does the job most times.

Best,

José María Mateos.

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Re: 3D, Power Point, I second the request

Cammer, Michael
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This happens with 2007 and 2010.  It did not happen with 2003.
Thanks.
Michael

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Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 10:20 AM
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Dear Michael,

What PowerPoint version do you have. If it is 2010, May be I can help.

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Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 8:53 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: 3D, Power Point, I second the request

If anyone knows how to reliably play any AVI or other format movie in PowerPoint (running on a PC, although this isn't reliable on Mac too), please tell us how.  Each movie runs once or twice and then the window goes black.  We've had a few IT people here look at this, but have not gotten results.
During presentations I simply switch to Quicktime or ImageJ where I already have the movies queued up, but it would be more professional looking to be able to use PowerPoint.
Thanks!
-Michael



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??
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 7:29 AM
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Subject: 3D, Power Point

Hellow fans,

I would like to insert 3D and stack images produced by image j in Power Point for presentations.  Is these are possible?
I would be happy if someone could help me.

Na

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Re: 3D, Power Point, I second the request

Michael Schell-2
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These are longstanding issues with Powerpoint, and there is not one answer.  If you are on a PC, the codecs used when saving the .avi versus the codecs installed  on the PC can make a difference.  On Macs, the format depends on the OS you are running.  In older versions of OSX, .mov files work better, but the newer Qucktime version won't run those at all.  We are all victims of the codec-wars.

In all versions of Powerpoint I have used, the program will not remember to loop the movie once you have set it to loop.  I've wrestled with this since at least 2004.  Microsoft has not kept their program up-to-date for the video-driven world we now operate in.  It still focuses on clip are and other nonsense.  Moving a movie-rich presentation from computer-to-computer remains problematic, even if you save as a "Package."

On a Mac, Keynote is the best solution for solving movie problems if you can adopt to it.  Has anybody tried playing movies in OpenOffice?  I tried once a few years ago, but it was not a positive experience.

Frustratedly,
Michael


On Sep 7, 2012, at 9:52 AM, "Cammer, Michael" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> If anyone knows how to reliably play any AVI or other format movie in PowerPoint (running on a PC, although this isn't reliable on Mac too), please tell us how.  Each movie runs once or twice and then the window goes black.  We've had a few IT people here look at this, but have not gotten results.
> During presentations I simply switch to Quicktime or ImageJ where I already have the movies queued up, but it would be more professional looking to be able to use PowerPoint.
> Thanks!
> -Michael
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ImageJ Interest Group [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of ?? ??
> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 7:29 AM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: 3D, Power Point
>
> Hellow fans,
>
> I would like to insert 3D and stack images produced by image j in Power Point for presentations.  Is these are possible?
> I would be happy if someone could help me.
>
> Na
>
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Re: 3D, Power Point, I second the request

Julian Cooper
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Hi all,

If you need to insert an image stack into PowerPoint so that you can
interactively scroll through it (backwards or forwards) then I have found
the following works well in PowerPoint 2007 or 2010:

1. Save the stack as an image sequence (File > Save As > Image Sequence)
with a file type of .jpg (to keep the presentation size down) to a folder.
It makes sense to resize the stack so that the dimensions aren't more than
you need for the final projection.
2. In PowerPoint 2007 or 2010 go to the Insert Tab > Photo Album > New Photo
Album and follow the dialog box to locate your folder of stack images
created in step 1. This will insert the images in sequence in a presentation
one per slide. On my current version it seems that the slides are created in
a new presentation which can be saved and copied into the main presentation
you are working on.
3. You can delete the folder containing the images now.
4. To scroll interactively during the slide show the arrow keys on the
keyboard seem the best option. This allows far more interactive control than
an embedded video.

Obviously, if the stack has many slices the number of slides will be great
but as long as the images are not excessively sized and have been inserted
in a compressed format the file-size doesn't end up excessive.

Hope this helps,

Julian

-----Original Message-----
From: ImageJ Interest Group [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of John
Hayes
Sent: 07 September 2012 15:28
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: 3D, Power Point, I second the request

Hi all,

I also have seen this problem with the ImageJ .avi files particularly on
Windows Powerpoint I believe.

Worst case scenario, one can export a ImageJ stack to a directory as a
series of .png (or other) images. Then use something like 'mencoder' from
MPlayer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MEncoder) to make a movie in a number
of formats including .avi.

Here's what I've used to build an .avi file from PNG images at 60 fps (width
and height are 200 pix):
> mencoder mf://*.png -mf w=200:h=200:fps=60:type=png -ovc copy -oac copy -o
output.avi

More examples of mencoder's use are here (see the section on "Encoding from
multiple input image files" in particular):
http://web.njit.edu/all_topics/Prog_Lang_Docs/html/mplayer/encoding.html 

For merging audio and video I've also used 'ffmpeg':
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FFmpeg

Best regards,

John

On 7 sept. 2012, at 15:52, Cammer, Michael wrote:

> If anyone knows how to reliably play any AVI or other format movie in
PowerPoint (running on a PC, although this isn't reliable on Mac too),
please tell us how.  Each movie runs once or twice and then the window goes
black.  We've had a few IT people here look at this, but have not gotten
results.
> During presentations I simply switch to Quicktime or ImageJ where I
already have the movies queued up, but it would be more professional looking
to be able to use PowerPoint.
> Thanks!
> -Michael
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ImageJ Interest Group [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of ??
??
> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 7:29 AM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: 3D, Power Point
>
> Hellow fans,
>
> I would like to insert 3D and stack images produced by image j in Power
Point for presentations.  Is these are possible?
> I would be happy if someone could help me.
>
> Na
>
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Re: 3D, Power Point

Joel Sheffield
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If you are using an older verson of PPt, you can get into trouble when you
try to show such a sequence from a flash drive on another computer.  This
is because PPt seems to refer to locatons for video files, rather than
incorporating them into the presentation directly.   One solution is to
save the sequence as an animated .gif, which is incorporated directly into
the powerpoint.

Joel


On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 9:53 AM, John Oreopoulos <[hidden email]
> wrote:

> I find the simplest way to do this is to save your stack or rotating 3D
> projection as an .avi file and then insert this saved file into powerpoint
> directly. Set the animation speed to an appropriate fps setting for easy
> viewing.
>
> Cheers,
>
> John Oreopoulos
> Research Assistant
> Spectral Applied Research
> Richmond Hill, Ontario
> Canada
> www.spectral.ca
>
>
> On 2012-09-07, at 7:29 AM, 中村 宗一 wrote:
>
> > Hellow fans,
> >
> > I would like to insert 3D and stack images produced by image j in Power
> Point for presentations.  Is these are possible?
> > I would be happy if someone could help me.
> >
> > Na
> >
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>
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Re: 3D, Power Point

中村 宗一
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Hi Joel,

i made successfully.
many thanks

Na,


>> If you are using an older verson of PPt, you can get into trouble when you
>> try to show such a sequence from a flash drive on another computer.  This
>> is because PPt seems to refer to locatons for video files, rather than
>> incorporating them into the presentation directly.   One solution is to
>> save the sequence as an animated .gif, which is incorporated directly into
>> the powerpoint.
>>
>> Joel
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 9:53 AM, John Oreopoulos <[hidden email]
>> > wrote:
>>
>> > I find the simplest way to do this is to save your stack or rotating 3D
>> > projection as an .avi file and then insert this saved file into powerpoint
>> > directly. Set the animation speed to an appropriate fps setting for easy
>> > viewing.
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> >
>> > John Oreopoulos
>> > Research Assistant
>> > Spectral Applied Research
>> > Richmond Hill, Ontario
>> > Canada
>> > www.spectral.ca
>> >
>> >
>> > On 2012-09-07, at 7:29 AM, 中村 宗一 wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hellow fans,
>> > >
>> > > I would like to insert 3D and stack images produced by image j in Power
>> > Point for presentations.  Is these are possible?
>> > > I would be happy if someone could help me.
>> > >
>> > > Na
>> > >
>> > > --
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>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>> >
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>> Joel B. Sheffield, Ph.D
>> Department of Biology
>> Temple University
>> Philadelphia, PA 19122
>> Voice: 215 204 8839
>> e-mail: [hidden email]
>> URL:  http://astro.temple.edu/~jbs
>>
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Re: 3D, Power Point, I second the request

中村 宗一
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Hi Julian,

 i made it. mamy thanks.

Na



>> Subject: Re: 3D, Power Point, I second the request
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> If you need to insert an image stack into PowerPoint so that you can
>> interactively scroll through it (backwards or forwards) then I have found
>> the following works well in PowerPoint 2007 or 2010:
>>
>> 1. Save the stack as an image sequence (File > Save As > Image Sequence)
>> with a file type of .jpg (to keep the presentation size down) to a folder.
>> It makes sense to resize the stack so that the dimensions aren't more than
>> you need for the final projection.
>> 2. In PowerPoint 2007 or 2010 go to the Insert Tab > Photo Album > New Photo
>> Album and follow the dialog box to locate your folder of stack images
>> created in step 1. This will insert the images in sequence in a presentation
>> one per slide. On my current version it seems that the slides are created in
>> a new presentation which can be saved and copied into the main presentation
>> you are working on.
>> 3. You can delete the folder containing the images now.
>> 4. To scroll interactively during the slide show the arrow keys on the
>> keyboard seem the best option. This allows far more interactive control than
>> an embedded video.
>>
>> Obviously, if the stack has many slices the number of slides will be great
>> but as long as the images are not excessively sized and have been inserted
>> in a compressed format the file-size doesn't end up excessive.
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>>
>> Julian
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ImageJ Interest Group [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of John
>> Hayes
>> Sent: 07 September 2012 15:28
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Subject: Re: 3D, Power Point, I second the request
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I also have seen this problem with the ImageJ .avi files particularly on
>> Windows Powerpoint I believe.
>>
>> Worst case scenario, one can export a ImageJ stack to a directory as a
>> series of .png (or other) images. Then use something like 'mencoder' from
>> MPlayer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MEncoder) to make a movie in a number
>> of formats including .avi.
>>
>> Here's what I've used to build an .avi file from PNG images at 60 fps (width
>> and height are 200 pix):
>> > mencoder mf://*.png -mf w=200:h=200:fps=60:type=png -ovc copy -oac copy -o
>> output.avi
>>
>> More examples of mencoder's use are here (see the section on "Encoding from
>> multiple input image files" in particular):
>> http://web.njit.edu/all_topics/Prog_Lang_Docs/html/mplayer/encoding.html 
>>
>> For merging audio and video I've also used 'ffmpeg':
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FFmpeg
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> John
>>
>> On 7 sept. 2012, at 15:52, Cammer, Michael wrote:
>>
>> > If anyone knows how to reliably play any AVI or other format movie in
>> PowerPoint (running on a PC, although this isn't reliable on Mac too),
>> please tell us how.  Each movie runs once or twice and then the window goes
>> black.  We've had a few IT people here look at this, but have not gotten
>> results.
>> > During presentations I simply switch to Quicktime or ImageJ where I
>> already have the movies queued up, but it would be more professional looking
>> to be able to use PowerPoint.
>> > Thanks!
>> > -Michael
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: ImageJ Interest Group [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of ??
>> ??
>> > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 7:29 AM
>> > To: [hidden email]
>> > Subject: 3D, Power Point
>> >
>> > Hellow fans,
>> >
>> > I would like to insert 3D and stack images produced by image j in Power
>> Point for presentations.  Is these are possible?
>> > I would be happy if someone could help me.
>> >
>> > Na
>> >
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Re: 3D, Power Point

Chung-Chih Lin
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YOU CAN TRY "SAVE AS ANIMATED GIF"
JUST COPY AND PASTE IT