Appearance of scroll bars under Windows 10

[Menelaos Symeonides]

I am experiencing a minor but annoying issue using Fiji (latest version)
under Windows 10. The scrollbar appearance has changed from Windows 7,
and somehow this makes it almost invisible in Fiji. The position of the
scroller is only really visible if you hover over it. The images in the
folder below demonstrate this problem:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/f0hwbuqotw9sceo/AAAlV4QPOJTNuWlKONz2Ysuza?dl=0

(the mouse pointer should be hovering over the selected scrollbar in the
Win10_selected image, but somehow the pointer is being removed from the
screenshot)

As you can see, the scrollbars were much clearer under Windows 7. I've
tried changing Windows Desktop Themes, and the appearance of the
scrollbar only changes if I use one of the high contrast themes, which I
don't want to do because that makes the text in some buttons unreadable.

Any ideas on how to improve this? Can you customize scrollbar appearance
within Fiji? I've looked through Edit>Options and couldn't find
anything. "Look and Feel" options do not seem to affect scrollbar
appearance.

Thanks,
Mel

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Menelaos Symeonides
University of Vermont
Cell & Molecular Biology Graduate Program
Department of Microbiology and Molecular Genetics
318 Stafford Hall
95 Carrigan Dr
Burlington, VT 05405
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Phone: [phone]

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[Robert Baer]

The slider appears fine here on Windows 10.  What version of java? Are
your video drivers current?

neuron sample showing slider in win 10

On 11/4/2015 2:29 PM, Menelaos Symeonides wrote:

> I am experiencing a minor but annoying issue using Fiji (latest
> version) under Windows 10. The scrollbar appearance has changed from
> Windows 7, and somehow this makes it almost invisible in Fiji. The
> position of the scroller is only really visible if you hover over it.
> The images in the folder below demonstrate this problem:
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/f0hwbuqotw9sceo/AAAlV4QPOJTNuWlKONz2Ysuza?dl=0
>
> (the mouse pointer should be hovering over the selected scrollbar in
> the Win10_selected image, but somehow the pointer is being removed
> from the screenshot)
>
> As you can see, the scrollbars were much clearer under Windows 7. I've
> tried changing Windows Desktop Themes, and the appearance of the
> scrollbar only changes if I use one of the high contrast themes, which
> I don't want to do because that makes the text in some buttons
> unreadable.
>
> Any ideas on how to improve this? Can you customize scrollbar
> appearance within Fiji? I've looked through Edit>Options and couldn't
> find anything. "Look and Feel" options do not seem to affect scrollbar
> appearance.
>
> Thanks,
> Mel
>

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[Menelaos Symeonides]

Hi Robert,

My display drivers are current, and I am running Java 1.8.0_65 (64bit]
(as also reported by Fiji).

It's odd because I tried running Fiji on another Windows 10 computer and
I don't see the problem there, it seems to just be with this one. I
guess I'll have to play around with anything I can think of, but my
guess is there's some display setting somewhere in Windows messing it up.

Mel



On 11/5/2015 3:44 AM, Robert Baer wrote:

The slider appears fine here on Windows 10.  What version of java? Are
your video drivers current?

neuron sample showing slider in win 10

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[Menelaos Symeonides]

Here's how to reproduce this issue (at least I can reproduce it on this
computer):

- Download Fiji 64bit. Extract, run it, update, and open an image file.
Scroll bars appear normal.
- Close Fiji, delete the java subfolder in the Fiji folder (to force it
to use your system's java), run again and open an image file. Scroll
bars are bad (same as what I showed in my first email).
- Restore the java folder, scroll bars are fine again.

Any advice would be appreciated.
Mel

On 11/5/2015 11:52 AM, Menelaos Symeonides wrote:

> Hi Robert,
>
> My display drivers are current, and I am running Java 1.8.0_65 (64bit]
> (as also reported by Fiji).
>
> It's odd because I tried running Fiji on another Windows 10 computer
> and I don't see the problem there, it seems to just be with this one.
> I guess I'll have to play around with anything I can think of, but my
> guess is there's some display setting somewhere in Windows messing it up.
>
> Mel
>
>
>
> On 11/5/2015 3:44 AM, Robert Baer wrote:
>
> The slider appears fine here on Windows 10.  What version of java? Are
> your video drivers current?
>
> neuron sample showing slider in win 10
>
> --
> Menelaos Symeonides
> University of Vermont
> Cell & Molecular Biology Graduate Program
> Department of Microbiology and Molecular Genetics
> 318 Stafford Hall
> 95 Carrigan Dr
> Burlington, VT 05405
> [hidden email]
> Phone: [phone]

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