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Deltavision file format

Mike A
Hi,

Just wondered whether anyone else had noticed the disconnect between the deltavision microscopes SoftWorx software used to acquire/open/analyse deltavision files and imageJ with respect to image orientation.  Whenever I open a deltavision file, either with the ImageJ open command, or LOCI bioformats importer, I have to do "edit > transform > flip vertically" because imageJ opens my deltavision files upside down from how they are displayed in Applied precisions SoftWorx software.

Just wondered whether others also have this "problem" with deltavision files... and whether its worth mentioning for a "fix"... or whether there is a reason for opening deltavision files in this orientation?

Thanks

Mike


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Re: Deltavision file format

Aurelie Snyder
Yes, I have this same problem.  I don't use ImageJ as a rule so I have not been much put out by it.  It would be a major pain if ImageJ is the program of choice though.  Worth a request.
However, if you do all you .dv files in ImageJ what would be the difference?


Aurelie Snyder

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From: ImageJ Interest Group [[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Michael Cundell [[hidden email]]
Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 9:39 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Deltavision file format

Hi,

Just wondered whether anyone else had noticed the disconnect between the deltavision microscopes SoftWorx software used to acquire/open/analyse deltavision files and imageJ with respect to image orientation.  Whenever I open a deltavision file, either with the ImageJ open command, or LOCI bioformats importer, I have to do "edit > transform > flip vertically" because imageJ opens my deltavision files upside down from how they are displayed in Applied precisions SoftWorx software.

Just wondered whether others also have this "problem" with deltavision files... and whether its worth mentioning for a "fix"... or whether there is a reason for opening deltavision files in this orientation?

Thanks

Mike


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Re: Deltavision file format

Daniel James White
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Hi Mike,

sometimes we have noticed similar things.

To get this fixed,
please send to Curtis and Melissa of the bio-formats file reader team
an example of a misbehaving file...

they are cc'd to this email.

only with concrete examples in the hands of the software developers can these little but annoying problems be solved!

cheers

Dan


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> ate:    Sun, 12 Sep 2010 17:39:17 +0100
> From:    Michael Cundell <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Deltavision file format
>
> Hi,
>
> Just wondered whether anyone else had noticed the disconnect between the deltavision microscopes SoftWorx software used to acquire/open/analyse deltavision files and imageJ with respect to image orientation.  Whenever I open a deltavision file, either with the ImageJ open command, or LOCI bioformats importer, I have to do "edit > transform > flip vertically" because imageJ opens my deltavision files upside down from how they are displayed in Applied precisions SoftWorx software.
>
> Just wondered whether others also have this "problem" with deltavision files... and whether its worth mentioning for a "fix"... or whether there is a reason for opening deltavision files in this orientation?
>
> Thanks
>
> Mike

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Re: Deltavision file format

Mike A
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I did contemplate whether to bother mentioning it or not given the fact that
i can just do image > transform > flip vertically.  Just wanted to bring it
to attention really.  Orientation doesnt really matter for fluorescence...
however if you have differential interferance contrast/nomaski light images
then the polarisation appears to come from the wrong direction when the file
is opened in imageJ... so if you want to process images for presentation
then you have to flip in imageJ at some point.

Mike

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From: "Aurelie Snyder" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 8:43 PM
To: <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: Deltavision file format

> Yes, I have this same problem.  I don't use ImageJ as a rule so I have not
> been much put out by it.  It would be a major pain if ImageJ is the
> program of choice though.  Worth a request.
> However, if you do all you .dv files in ImageJ what would be the
> difference?
>
>
> Aurelie Snyder
>
> ________________________________________
> From: ImageJ Interest Group [[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Michael
> Cundell [[hidden email]]
> Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 9:39 AM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Deltavision file format
>
> Hi,
>
> Just wondered whether anyone else had noticed the disconnect between the
> deltavision microscopes SoftWorx software used to acquire/open/analyse
> deltavision files and imageJ with respect to image orientation.  Whenever
> I open a deltavision file, either with the ImageJ open command, or LOCI
> bioformats importer, I have to do "edit > transform > flip vertically"
> because imageJ opens my deltavision files upside down from how they are
> displayed in Applied precisions SoftWorx software.
>
> Just wondered whether others also have this "problem" with deltavision
> files... and whether its worth mentioning for a "fix"... or whether there
> is a reason for opening deltavision files in this orientation?
>
> Thanks
>
> Mike
>
>
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Re: Deltavision file format

ctrueden
Hi Mike,

Thanks for the bug report. I'll second Dan's suggestion: if you email us
(the Bio-Formats developers) with a sample file, we can get it fixed. For
files ~15MB or less, email attachments are fine; for larger files let us
know if you need a place to upload data. You can find contact information
here: http://www.loci.wisc.edu/software/mailing-lists

Thanks,
Curtis

On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Michael Cundell <[hidden email]>wrote:

> I did contemplate whether to bother mentioning it or not given the fact
> that i can just do image > transform > flip vertically.  Just wanted to
> bring it to attention really.  Orientation doesnt really matter for
> fluorescence... however if you have differential interferance
> contrast/nomaski light images then the polarisation appears to come from the
> wrong direction when the file is opened in imageJ... so if you want to
> process images for presentation then you have to flip in imageJ at some
> point.
>
> Mike
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Aurelie Snyder" <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 8:43 PM
>
> To: <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: Deltavision file format
>
>  Yes, I have this same problem.  I don't use ImageJ as a rule so I have not
>> been much put out by it.  It would be a major pain if ImageJ is the program
>> of choice though.  Worth a request.
>> However, if you do all you .dv files in ImageJ what would be the
>> difference?
>>
>>
>> Aurelie Snyder
>>
>> ________________________________________
>> From: ImageJ Interest Group [[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Michael
>> Cundell [[hidden email]]
>> Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 9:39 AM
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Subject: Deltavision file format
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Just wondered whether anyone else had noticed the disconnect between the
>> deltavision microscopes SoftWorx software used to acquire/open/analyse
>> deltavision files and imageJ with respect to image orientation.  Whenever I
>> open a deltavision file, either with the ImageJ open command, or LOCI
>> bioformats importer, I have to do "edit > transform > flip vertically"
>> because imageJ opens my deltavision files upside down from how they are
>> displayed in Applied precisions SoftWorx software.
>>
>> Just wondered whether others also have this "problem" with deltavision
>> files... and whether its worth mentioning for a "fix"... or whether there is
>> a reason for opening deltavision files in this orientation?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus
>> signature database 5444 (20100912) __________
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>> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.
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>> signature database 5447 (20100913) __________
>>
>>
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>>
>>
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>
>
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