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Fruit symmetry analysis

EJ
Hi,
I've only just discovered ImageJ, and hope to use it as a tool for my thesis. I have been applying treatments to strawberry plants and want to see how this may affect the symmetry of the fruit produced. I have images of the sliced fruit scanned in.
I am sure I can use ImageJ to analyse this somehow, but the plugins I looked at didn't seem appropriate.
Does anyone know how I could use ImageJ to analyse the symmetry of the fruit?
Thank you for any help.
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Re: Fruit symmetry analysis

Jacqueline Ross
Hi Ellie,

I expect that ImageJ should work, perhaps by using the shape descriptors. It always depends on the quality of the images though. Are you able to post an image somewhere? Also, your slices would need to be consistent, e.g. directly through the middle in cross and transverse sections.

If you want to look at the 3D shape by building a stack with the slices, that would be a little more complicated.

Kind regards,

Jacqui

Jacqueline Ross

Biomedical Imaging Microscopist
Biomedical Imaging Research Unit
School of Medical Sciences
Faculty of Medical & Health Sciences
The University of Auckland
Private Bag 92019
Auckland, NEW ZEALAND

Tel: 64 9 373 7599 Ext 87438
Fax: 64 9 373 7484

http://www.fmhs.auckland.ac.nz/sms/biru/


-----Original Message-----
From: ImageJ Interest Group [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of EJ
Sent: Friday, 6 July 2012 4:05 a.m.
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Subject: Fruit symmetry analysis

Hi,
I've only just discovered ImageJ, and hope to use it as a tool for my
thesis. I have been applying treatments to strawberry plants and want to see
how this may affect the symmetry of the fruit produced. I have images of the
sliced fruit scanned in.
I am sure I can use ImageJ to analyse this somehow, but the plugins I looked
at didn't seem appropriate.
Does anyone know how I could use ImageJ to analyse the symmetry of the
fruit?
Thank you for any help.

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Re: Fruit symmetry analysis

Pål Baggethun
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I am curious about this. How do you define a measure for fruit symmetry? Is there an existing standard or accepted procedure? I can imagine that a major challenge is to find the optimal axis of symmetry / mirror plane: the axis/plane that maximizes your symmetry measure. I cannot recall any plugin that can do this, but maybe I am wrong.

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-----Original Message-----
From: ImageJ Interest Group [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of EJ
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 6:05 PM
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Subject: Fruit symmetry analysis

Hi,
I've only just discovered ImageJ, and hope to use it as a tool for my
thesis. I have been applying treatments to strawberry plants and want to see
how this may affect the symmetry of the fruit produced. I have images of the
sliced fruit scanned in.
I am sure I can use ImageJ to analyse this somehow, but the plugins I looked
at didn't seem appropriate.
Does anyone know how I could use ImageJ to analyse the symmetry of the
fruit?
Thank you for any help.

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Re: Fruit symmetry analysis

Cammer, Michael
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Symmetry of volume or projected area.  If projected area from below, SD of radial symmetry?  Pics like this??
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mcammer/7515082420/
Cheers,
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Michael Cammer, Assistant Research Scientist
Skirball Institute of Biomolecular Medicine
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-----Original Message-----
From: ImageJ Interest Group [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Jacqui Ross
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 5:56 PM
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Subject: Re: Fruit symmetry analysis

Hi Ellie,

I expect that ImageJ should work, perhaps by using the shape descriptors. It always depends on the quality of the images though. Are you able to post an image somewhere? Also, your slices would need to be consistent, e.g. directly through the middle in cross and transverse sections.

If you want to look at the 3D shape by building a stack with the slices, that would be a little more complicated.

Kind regards,

Jacqui

Jacqueline Ross

Biomedical Imaging Microscopist
Biomedical Imaging Research Unit
School of Medical Sciences
Faculty of Medical & Health Sciences
The University of Auckland
Private Bag 92019
Auckland, NEW ZEALAND

Tel: 64 9 373 7599 Ext 87438
Fax: 64 9 373 7484

http://www.fmhs.auckland.ac.nz/sms/biru/


-----Original Message-----
From: ImageJ Interest Group [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of EJ
Sent: Friday, 6 July 2012 4:05 a.m.
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Fruit symmetry analysis

Hi,
I've only just discovered ImageJ, and hope to use it as a tool for my thesis. I have been applying treatments to strawberry plants and want to see how this may affect the symmetry of the fruit produced. I have images of the sliced fruit scanned in.
I am sure I can use ImageJ to analyse this somehow, but the plugins I looked at didn't seem appropriate.
Does anyone know how I could use ImageJ to analyse the symmetry of the fruit?
Thank you for any help.

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