ImageJ

ImageJ with HiDpi

_‹ Previous Topic Next Topic _›

Classic

List

Threaded

11 messages Options

venik212

ImageJ with HiDpi

I am running ImageJ on a Yoga 2 Pro with HiDPI display (3200 X 1800 pixels) with Linux (Lubuntu/Mint/Cinnnamon).
The program works, but the user interface is barely usable-- the icons and fonts in the menus are microscopic. I tried to increase the font size from the Edit/Options/Fonts, but it failed.
I know I am not the only one with such a configuration-- is there a way to increase the size of the icons and fonts?
Thanks

Robert Dougherty

Re: ImageJ with HiDpi

I've had this problem with Windows 8.1 on a Dell laptop with a 4K display. Everything is tiny. The Windows Installation instructions suggest to uncheck "Disable display scaling on high DPI settings", but this seems to have no effect. In developing plugins, it is possible to make dialogs larger by setting them to use larger fonts. In this case, everything scales except the checkboxes.

Bob

On Oct 23, 2015, at 2:58 AM, venik212 wrote:

> I am running ImageJ on a Yoga 2 Pro with HiDPI display (3200 X 1800 pixels)
> with Linux (Lubuntu/Mint/Cinnnamon).
> The program works, but the user interface is barely usable-- the icons and
> fonts in the menus are microscopic. I tried to increase the font size from
> the Edit/Options/Fonts, but it failed.
> I know I am not the only one with such a configuration-- is there a way to
> increase the size of the icons and fonts?
> Thanks
>
>
>
> --
> View this message in context: http://imagej.1557.x6.nabble.com/ImageJ-with-HiDpi-tp5014736.html
> Sent from the ImageJ mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>
> --
> ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html

Robert Dougherty, Ph.D.
President, OptiNav, Inc.
1414 127th Place NE #106
Bellevue, WA 98005
Tel. (425)891-4883
FAX (425)467-1119
www.optinav.com
[hidden email]

--
ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html

Saalfeld, Stephan

Re: ImageJ with HiDpi

To my best kknowledge, Java's support for HiDpi displays is still
unsatisfying. It works fine on MacOS (though slow at times) but not at
all on Windows or Linux. Applications can remedy that in their own
regime by fetching some properties of the host system. Here is some
information in JavaFX context

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/26182460/javafx-8-hidpi-support

I'd be curious to learn about sensible solutions too.

Best,
Stephan

On Fri, 2015-10-23 at 08:42 -0700, Robert Dougherty wrote:

> I've had this problem with Windows 8.1 on a Dell laptop with a 4K display. Everything is tiny. The Windows Installation instructions suggest to uncheck "Disable display scaling on high DPI settings", but this seems to have no effect. In developing plugins, it is possible to make dialogs larger by setting them to use larger fonts. In this case, everything scales except the checkboxes.
>
> Bob
>
> On Oct 23, 2015, at 2:58 AM, venik212 wrote:
>
> > I am running ImageJ on a Yoga 2 Pro with HiDPI display (3200 X 1800 pixels)
> > with Linux (Lubuntu/Mint/Cinnnamon).
> > The program works, but the user interface is barely usable-- the icons and
> > fonts in the menus are microscopic. I tried to increase the font size from
> > the Edit/Options/Fonts, but it failed.
> > I know I am not the only one with such a configuration-- is there a way to
> > increase the size of the icons and fonts?
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > View this message in context: http://imagej.1557.x6.nabble.com/ImageJ-with-HiDpi-tp5014736.html
> > Sent from the ImageJ mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> >
> > --
> > ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html
>
> Robert Dougherty, Ph.D.
> President, OptiNav, Inc.
> 1414 127th Place NE #106
> Bellevue, WA 98005
> Tel. (425)891-4883
> FAX (425)467-1119
> www.optinav.com
> [hidden email]
>
> --
> ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html

--
ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html

ctrueden

Re: ImageJ with HiDpi

Hi everyone,

> I'd be curious to learn about sensible solutions too.

I think the long-term solution will be a new UI for ImageJ that is coded to
be resolution independent. This is possible with current layout managers
(e.g., Substance, MiG Layout). JavaFX indeed looks like a good candidate to
use for building such a UI.

What is highly unlikely to happen (IMO) is an update of the ImageJ 1.x AWT
user interface to scale for HiDPI displays.

If anyone knows an easier way to scale UIs in Java with minimal development
effort, I'd also love to know.

Regards,
Curtis

On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 1:48 PM, Saalfeld, Stephan <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> To my best kknowledge, Java's support for HiDpi displays is still
> unsatisfying. It works fine on MacOS (though slow at times) but not at
> all on Windows or Linux. Applications can remedy that in their own
> regime by fetching some properties of the host system. Here is some
> information in JavaFX context
>
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/26182460/javafx-8-hidpi-support
>
> I'd be curious to learn about sensible solutions too.
>
> Best,
> Stephan
>
> On Fri, 2015-10-23 at 08:42 -0700, Robert Dougherty wrote:
> > I've had this problem with Windows 8.1 on a Dell laptop with a 4K
> display. Everything is tiny. The Windows Installation instructions
> suggest to uncheck "Disable display scaling on high DPI settings", but this
> seems to have no effect. In developing plugins, it is possible to make
> dialogs larger by setting them to use larger fonts. In this case,
> everything scales except the checkboxes.
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > On Oct 23, 2015, at 2:58 AM, venik212 wrote:
> >
> > > I am running ImageJ on a Yoga 2 Pro with HiDPI display (3200 X 1800
> pixels)
> > > with Linux (Lubuntu/Mint/Cinnnamon).
> > > The program works, but the user interface is barely usable-- the icons
> and
> > > fonts in the menus are microscopic. I tried to increase the font size
> from
> > > the Edit/Options/Fonts, but it failed.
> > > I know I am not the only one with such a configuration-- is there a
> way to
> > > increase the size of the icons and fonts?
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > View this message in context:
> http://imagej.1557.x6.nabble.com/ImageJ-with-HiDpi-tp5014736.html
> > > Sent from the ImageJ mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> > >
> > > --
> > > ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html
> >
> > Robert Dougherty, Ph.D.
> > President, OptiNav, Inc.
> > 1414 127th Place NE #106
> > Bellevue, WA 98005
> > Tel. (425)891-4883
> > FAX (425)467-1119
> > www.optinav.com
> > [hidden email]
> >
> > --
> > ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html
>
>
> --
> ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html
>

--
ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html

Rasband, Wayne (NIH/NIMH) [E]

Re: ImageJ with HiDpi

In reply to this post by Robert Dougherty

On Oct 23, 2015, at 11:42 AM, Robert Dougherty <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I've had this problem with Windows 8.1 on a Dell laptop with a 4K display. Everything is tiny. The Windows Installation instructions suggest to uncheck "Disable display scaling on high DPI settings", but this seems to have no effect. In developing plugins, it is possible to make dialogs larger by setting them to use larger fonts. In this case, everything scales except the checkboxes.

Try upgrading to Windows 10. By default, it displays ImageJ at a reasonable size on high resolution displays. On a 13 inch, 3200x1800 display, ImageJ “sees” the display size as 1600x900 and everything is twice as big as it would be on a 3200x1800 display. Press “i” (Image>Show Info) get the size of the scaled display used by ImageJ. It’s in the line that starts with “Screen location:”.

-wayne

> On Oct 23, 2015, at 2:58 AM, venik212 wrote:
>
>> I am running ImageJ on a Yoga 2 Pro with HiDPI display (3200 X 1800 pixels)
>> with Linux (Lubuntu/Mint/Cinnnamon).
>> The program works, but the user interface is barely usable-- the icons and
>> fonts in the menus are microscopic. I tried to increase the font size from
>> the Edit/Options/Fonts, but it failed.
>> I know I am not the only one with such a configuration-- is there a way to
>> increase the size of the icons and fonts?
>> Thanks
>>
>> --
>> View this message in context: http://imagej.1557.x6.nabble.com/ImageJ-with-HiDpi-tp5014736.html
>> Sent from the ImageJ mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

--
ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html

venik212

RE: ImageJ with HiDpi

As I mentioned in my post, I have this problem while using Linux ((L)ubuntu 15.10 with Mint/Cinnamon). Using Windows 10 on the very same Yoga 2 Pro works just fine with HiDPI, but I rarely use Windows, and would hate to have to boot into Windows to use ImageJ.

Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2015 18:55:37 -0700
From: [hidden email]
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: ImageJ with HiDpi

On Oct 23, 2015, at 11:42 AM, Robert Dougherty <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I've had this problem with Windows 8.1 on a Dell laptop with a 4K display. Everything is tiny. The Windows Installation instructions suggest to uncheck "Disable display scaling on high DPI settings", but this seems to have no effect. In developing plugins, it is possible to make dialogs larger by setting them to use larger fonts. In this case, everything scales except the checkboxes.

Try upgrading to Windows 10. By default, it displays ImageJ at a reasonable size on high resolution displays. On a 13 inch, 3200x1800 display, ImageJ “sees” the display size as 1600x900 and everything is twice as big as it would be on a 3200x1800 display. Press “i” (Image>Show Info) get the size of the scaled display used by ImageJ. It’s in the line that starts with “Screen location:”.

-wayne

--
ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html

If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below:

http://imagej.1557.x6.nabble.com/ImageJ-with-HiDpi-tp5014736p5014759.html

To unsubscribe from ImageJ with HiDpi, click here.
NAML

ctrueden

Re: ImageJ with HiDpi

Hi Gabriel,

> I have this problem while using Linux ((L)ubuntu 15.10 with
> Mint/Cinnamon).

Does it make a difference if you change GNOME's scaling settings?

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2911509/how-to-make-linuxs-desktop-look-good-on-high-resolution-displays.html

Regards,
Curtis

On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 12:37 PM, venik212 <[hidden email]> wrote:

> As I mentioned in my post, I have this problem while using Linux
> ((L)ubuntu 15.10 with Mint/Cinnamon). Using Windows 10 on the very same
> Yoga 2 Pro works just fine with HiDPI, but I rarely use Windows, and would
> hate to have to boot into Windows to use ImageJ.EK
>
> Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2015 18:55:37 -0700
> From: [hidden email]
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: ImageJ with HiDpi
>
>
>
> On Oct 23, 2015, at 11:42 AM, Robert Dougherty <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > I've had this problem with Windows 8.1 on a Dell laptop with a 4K
> display. Everything is tiny. The Windows Installation instructions
> suggest to uncheck "Disable display scaling on high DPI settings", but this
> seems to have no effect. In developing plugins, it is possible to make
> dialogs larger by setting them to use larger fonts. In this case,
> everything scales except the checkboxes.
>
>
> Try upgrading to Windows 10. By default, it displays ImageJ at a
> reasonable size on high resolution displays. On a 13 inch, 3200x1800
> display, ImageJ “sees” the display size as 1600x900 and everything is twice
> as big as it would be on a 3200x1800 display. Press “i” (Image>Show Info)
> get the size of the scaled display used by ImageJ. It’s in the line that
> starts with “Screen location:”.
>
>
> -wayne
>
>
> > On Oct 23, 2015, at 2:58 AM, venik212 wrote:
>
> >
>
> >> I am running ImageJ on a Yoga 2 Pro with HiDPI display (3200 X 1800
> pixels)
>
> >> with Linux (Lubuntu/Mint/Cinnnamon).
>
> >> The program works, but the user interface is barely usable-- the icons
> and
>
> >> fonts in the menus are microscopic. I tried to increase the font size
> from
>
> >> the Edit/Options/Fonts, but it failed.
>
> >> I know I am not the only one with such a configuration-- is there a way
> to
>
> >> increase the size of the icons and fonts?
>
> >> Thanks
>
> >>
>
> >> --
>
> >> View this message in context:
> http://imagej.1557.x6.nabble.com/ImageJ-with-HiDpi-tp5014736.html
> >> Sent from the ImageJ mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>
>
>
> --
>
> ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> If you reply to this email, your message will be added to
> the discussion below:
>
> http://imagej.1557.x6.nabble.com/ImageJ-with-HiDpi-tp5014736p5014759.html
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe from ImageJ with HiDpi, click here.
>
> NAML
>
>
>
>
> --
> View this message in context:
> http://imagej.1557.x6.nabble.com/ImageJ-with-HiDpi-tp5014736p5014775.html
> Sent from the ImageJ mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>
> --
> ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html
>

--
ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html

John Hayes

Re: ImageJ with HiDpi

In reply to this post by venik212

Hi,

I think you may need to look into a Linux forum for your desktop environment to see how to upscale the windows as Wayne is alluding to here with Windows 10. A similar problem is described here, but with Gnome 3: http://www.pcworld.com/article/2911509/how-to-make-linuxs-desktop-look-good-on-high-resolution-displays.html

Good luck,

John

Le 26 oct. 2015 à 13:37, venik212 a écrit :

> As I mentioned in my post, I have this problem while using Linux ((L)ubuntu 15.10 with Mint/Cinnamon). Using Windows 10 on the very same Yoga 2 Pro works just fine with HiDPI, but I rarely use Windows, and would hate to have to boot into Windows to use ImageJ.EK
>
> Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2015 18:55:37 -0700
> From: [hidden email]
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: ImageJ with HiDpi
>
>
>
> On Oct 23, 2015, at 11:42 AM, Robert Dougherty <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>>
>
>> I've had this problem with Windows 8.1 on a Dell laptop with a 4K display. Everything is tiny. The Windows Installation instructions suggest to uncheck "Disable display scaling on high DPI settings", but this seems to have no effect. In developing plugins, it is possible to make dialogs larger by setting them to use larger fonts. In this case, everything scales except the checkboxes.
>
>
> Try upgrading to Windows 10. By default, it displays ImageJ at a reasonable size on high resolution displays. On a 13 inch, 3200x1800 display, ImageJ “sees” the display size as 1600x900 and everything is twice as big as it would be on a 3200x1800 display. Press “i” (Image>Show Info) get the size of the scaled display used by ImageJ. It’s in the line that starts with “Screen location:”.
>
>
> -wayne
>
>
>> On Oct 23, 2015, at 2:58 AM, venik212 wrote:
>
>>
>
>>> I am running ImageJ on a Yoga 2 Pro with HiDPI display (3200 X 1800 pixels)
>
>>> with Linux (Lubuntu/Mint/Cinnnamon).
>
>>> The program works, but the user interface is barely usable-- the icons and
>
>>> fonts in the menus are microscopic. I tried to increase the font size from
>
>>> the Edit/Options/Fonts, but it failed.
>
>>> I know I am not the only one with such a configuration-- is there a way to
>
>>> increase the size of the icons and fonts?
>
>>> Thanks
>
>>>
>
>>> --
>
>>> View this message in context: http://imagej.1557.x6.nabble.com/ImageJ-with-HiDpi-tp5014736.html
>>> Sent from the ImageJ mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>
>
>
> --
>
> ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below:
> http://imagej.1557.x6.nabble.com/ImageJ-with-HiDpi-tp5014736p5014759.html
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe from ImageJ with HiDpi, click here.
>
> NAML
>
>
>
>
> --
> View this message in context: http://imagej.1557.x6.nabble.com/ImageJ-with-HiDpi-tp5014736p5014775.html
> Sent from the ImageJ mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>
> --
> ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html

--
ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html

Saalfeld, Stephan

Re: ImageJ with HiDpi

Hi John,

on Ubuntu Unity, most applications accept the desktop scaling factor,
others don't. See attached screenshot for how this looks on Ubuntu
15.04 installed on Dell's 13" XPS with 3200x1800px screen with a scaling
factor of 1.75. Native GTK or QT applications work. Firefox and Chrome
get it done after setting some app-specific properties, Eclipse is
usable despite really really small icons, git gui, ImageJ, and generally
all AWT or Swing based Java applications are too small, although I keep
finding my way doing work with them, it's be a lot nicer to have them
occupy more space.

If you know about a scaling factor that would affect those applications,
I'd love to hear about it. These screens are gorgeous! It's a real
pleasure working on them.

Best,
Stephan

On Mon, 2015-10-26 at 14:07 -0400, John Hayes wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I think you may need to look into a Linux forum for your desktop environment to see how to upscale the windows as Wayne is alluding to here with Windows 10. A similar problem is described here, but with Gnome 3: http://www.pcworld.com/article/2911509/how-to-make-linuxs-desktop-look-good-on-high-resolution-displays.html
>
> Good luck,
>
> John
>
> Le 26 oct. 2015 à 13:37, venik212 a écrit :
>
> > As I mentioned in my post, I have this problem while using Linux ((L)ubuntu 15.10 with Mint/Cinnamon). Using Windows 10 on the very same Yoga 2 Pro works just fine with HiDPI, but I rarely use Windows, and would hate to have to boot into Windows to use ImageJ.EK
> >
> > Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2015 18:55:37 -0700
> > From: [hidden email]
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Subject: Re: ImageJ with HiDpi
> >
> >
> >
> > On Oct 23, 2015, at 11:42 AM, Robert Dougherty <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >
> >> I've had this problem with Windows 8.1 on a Dell laptop with a 4K display. Everything is tiny. The Windows Installation instructions suggest to uncheck "Disable display scaling on high DPI settings", but this seems to have no effect. In developing plugins, it is possible to make dialogs larger by setting them to use larger fonts. In this case, everything scales except the checkboxes.
> >
> >
> > Try upgrading to Windows 10. By default, it displays ImageJ at a reasonable size on high resolution displays. On a 13 inch, 3200x1800 display, ImageJ “sees” the display size as 1600x900 and everything is twice as big as it would be on a 3200x1800 display. Press “i” (Image>Show Info) get the size of the scaled display used by ImageJ. It’s in the line that starts with “Screen location:”.
> >
> >
> > -wayne
> >
> >
> >> On Oct 23, 2015, at 2:58 AM, venik212 wrote:
> >
> >>
> >
> >>> I am running ImageJ on a Yoga 2 Pro with HiDPI display (3200 X 1800 pixels)
> >
> >>> with Linux (Lubuntu/Mint/Cinnnamon).
> >
> >>> The program works, but the user interface is barely usable-- the icons and
> >
> >>> fonts in the menus are microscopic. I tried to increase the font size from
> >
> >>> the Edit/Options/Fonts, but it failed.
> >
> >>> I know I am not the only one with such a configuration-- is there a way to
> >
> >>> increase the size of the icons and fonts?
> >
> >>> Thanks
> >
> >>>
> >
> >>> --
> >
> >>> View this message in context: http://imagej.1557.x6.nabble.com/ImageJ-with-HiDpi-tp5014736.html
> >>> Sent from the ImageJ mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below:
> > http://imagej.1557.x6.nabble.com/ImageJ-with-HiDpi-tp5014736p5014759.html
> >
> >
> >
> > To unsubscribe from ImageJ with HiDpi, click here.
> >
> > NAML
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > View this message in context: http://imagej.1557.x6.nabble.com/ImageJ-with-HiDpi-tp5014736p5014775.html
> > Sent from the ImageJ mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> >
> > --
> > ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html
>
> --
> ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html

--
ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html

ubuntu-hidpi-imagej.png (1M) Download Attachment

John Hayes

Re: ImageJ with HiDpi

Hi Stephan and others,

For OpenJDK, this seems to be a known implementation bug in the XLib library on Linux:
http://openjdk.java.net/jeps/263

For other Swing applications that you can choose look-and-feel in, they may have a workaround as described there. But since the link seems to have recently been updated (2015/10/13), hopefully they are working on a longer-term solution for the AWT applications (like ImageJ)...

Best,

John

Le 26 oct. 2015 à 15:07, Saalfeld, Stephan a écrit :

> Hi John,
>
> on Ubuntu Unity, most applications accept the desktop scaling factor,
> others don't. See attached screenshot for how this looks on Ubuntu
> 15.04 installed on Dell's 13" XPS with 3200x1800px screen with a scaling
> factor of 1.75. Native GTK or QT applications work. Firefox and Chrome
> get it done after setting some app-specific properties, Eclipse is
> usable despite really really small icons, git gui, ImageJ, and generally
> all AWT or Swing based Java applications are too small, although I keep
> finding my way doing work with them, it's be a lot nicer to have them
> occupy more space.
>
> If you know about a scaling factor that would affect those applications,
> I'd love to hear about it. These screens are gorgeous! It's a real
> pleasure working on them.
>
> Best,
> Stephan
>
>
> On Mon, 2015-10-26 at 14:07 -0400, John Hayes wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I think you may need to look into a Linux forum for your desktop environment to see how to upscale the windows as Wayne is alluding to here with Windows 10. A similar problem is described here, but with Gnome 3: http://www.pcworld.com/article/2911509/how-to-make-linuxs-desktop-look-good-on-high-resolution-displays.html
>>
>> Good luck,
>>
>> John
>>
>> Le 26 oct. 2015 à 13:37, venik212 a écrit :
>>
>>> As I mentioned in my post, I have this problem while using Linux ((L)ubuntu 15.10 with Mint/Cinnamon). Using Windows 10 on the very same Yoga 2 Pro works just fine with HiDPI, but I rarely use Windows, and would hate to have to boot into Windows to use ImageJ.EK
>>>
>>> Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2015 18:55:37 -0700
>>> From: [hidden email]
>>> To: [hidden email]
>>> Subject: Re: ImageJ with HiDpi
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 23, 2015, at 11:42 AM, Robert Dougherty <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>> I've had this problem with Windows 8.1 on a Dell laptop with a 4K display. Everything is tiny. The Windows Installation instructions suggest to uncheck "Disable display scaling on high DPI settings", but this seems to have no effect. In developing plugins, it is possible to make dialogs larger by setting them to use larger fonts. In this case, everything scales except the checkboxes.
>>>
>>>
>>> Try upgrading to Windows 10. By default, it displays ImageJ at a reasonable size on high resolution displays. On a 13 inch, 3200x1800 display, ImageJ “sees” the display size as 1600x900 and everything is twice as big as it would be on a 3200x1800 display. Press “i” (Image>Show Info) get the size of the scaled display used by ImageJ. It’s in the line that starts with “Screen location:”.
>>>
>>>
>>> -wayne
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Oct 23, 2015, at 2:58 AM, venik212 wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>>> I am running ImageJ on a Yoga 2 Pro with HiDPI display (3200 X 1800 pixels)
>>>
>>>>> with Linux (Lubuntu/Mint/Cinnnamon).
>>>
>>>>> The program works, but the user interface is barely usable-- the icons and
>>>
>>>>> fonts in the menus are microscopic. I tried to increase the font size from
>>>
>>>>> the Edit/Options/Fonts, but it failed.
>>>
>>>>> I know I am not the only one with such a configuration-- is there a way to
>>>
>>>>> increase the size of the icons and fonts?
>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>>> --
>>>
>>>>> View this message in context: http://imagej.1557.x6.nabble.com/ImageJ-with-HiDpi-tp5014736.html
>>>>> Sent from the ImageJ mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below:
>>> http://imagej.1557.x6.nabble.com/ImageJ-with-HiDpi-tp5014736p5014759.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> To unsubscribe from ImageJ with HiDpi, click here.
>>>
>>> NAML
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> View this message in context: http://imagej.1557.x6.nabble.com/ImageJ-with-HiDpi-tp5014736p5014775.html
>>> Sent from the ImageJ mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>
>>> --
>>> ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html
>>
>> --
>> ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html
>
>
> --
> ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html
> <ubuntu-hidpi-imagej.png>

--
ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html

ctrueden

Re: ImageJ with HiDpi

Hi John,

> hopefully they are working on a longer-term solution for the AWT
> applications (like ImageJ)...

Maybe. But as I said before, I wouldn't hold my breath. AWT is not a
current technology for UIs. Neither is Swing, actually—JavaFX is clearly
the recommended direction for new Java applications.

Regards,
Curtis

On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 2:42 PM, John Hayes <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Stephan and others,
>
> For OpenJDK, this seems to be a known implementation bug in the XLib
> library on Linux:
> http://openjdk.java.net/jeps/263
>
> For other Swing applications that you can choose look-and-feel in, they
> may have a workaround as described there. But since the link seems to have
> recently been updated (2015/10/13), hopefully they are working on a
> longer-term solution for the AWT applications (like ImageJ)...
>
> Best,
>
> John
>
> Le 26 oct. 2015 à 15:07, Saalfeld, Stephan a écrit :
>
> > Hi John,
> >
> > on Ubuntu Unity, most applications accept the desktop scaling factor,
> > others don't. See attached screenshot for how this looks on Ubuntu
> > 15.04 installed on Dell's 13" XPS with 3200x1800px screen with a scaling
> > factor of 1.75. Native GTK or QT applications work. Firefox and Chrome
> > get it done after setting some app-specific properties, Eclipse is
> > usable despite really really small icons, git gui, ImageJ, and generally
> > all AWT or Swing based Java applications are too small, although I keep
> > finding my way doing work with them, it's be a lot nicer to have them
> > occupy more space.
> >
> > If you know about a scaling factor that would affect those applications,
> > I'd love to hear about it. These screens are gorgeous! It's a real
> > pleasure working on them.
> >
> > Best,
> > Stephan
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 2015-10-26 at 14:07 -0400, John Hayes wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I think you may need to look into a Linux forum for your desktop
> environment to see how to upscale the windows as Wayne is alluding to here
> with Windows 10. A similar problem is described here, but with Gnome 3:
> http://www.pcworld.com/article/2911509/how-to-make-linuxs-desktop-look-good-on-high-resolution-displays.html
> >>
> >> Good luck,
> >>
> >> John
> >>
> >> Le 26 oct. 2015 à 13:37, venik212 a écrit :
> >>
> >>> As I mentioned in my post, I have this problem while using Linux
> ((L)ubuntu 15.10 with Mint/Cinnamon). Using Windows 10 on the very same
> Yoga 2 Pro works just fine with HiDPI, but I rarely use Windows, and would
> hate to have to boot into Windows to use ImageJ.EK
> >>>
> >>> Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2015 18:55:37 -0700
> >>> From: [hidden email]
> >>> To: [hidden email]
> >>> Subject: Re: ImageJ with HiDpi
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Oct 23, 2015, at 11:42 AM, Robert Dougherty <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>> I've had this problem with Windows 8.1 on a Dell laptop with a 4K
> display. Everything is tiny. The Windows Installation instructions
> suggest to uncheck "Disable display scaling on high DPI settings", but this
> seems to have no effect. In developing plugins, it is possible to make
> dialogs larger by setting them to use larger fonts. In this case,
> everything scales except the checkboxes.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Try upgrading to Windows 10. By default, it displays ImageJ at a
> reasonable size on high resolution displays. On a 13 inch, 3200x1800
> display, ImageJ “sees” the display size as 1600x900 and everything is twice
> as big as it would be on a 3200x1800 display. Press “i” (Image>Show Info)
> get the size of the scaled display used by ImageJ. It’s in the line that
> starts with “Screen location:”.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -wayne
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On Oct 23, 2015, at 2:58 AM, venik212 wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>>> I am running ImageJ on a Yoga 2 Pro with HiDPI display (3200 X 1800
> pixels)
> >>>
> >>>>> with Linux (Lubuntu/Mint/Cinnnamon).
> >>>
> >>>>> The program works, but the user interface is barely usable-- the
> icons and
> >>>
> >>>>> fonts in the menus are microscopic. I tried to increase the font
> size from
> >>>
> >>>>> the Edit/Options/Fonts, but it failed.
> >>>
> >>>>> I know I am not the only one with such a configuration-- is there a
> way to
> >>>
> >>>>> increase the size of the icons and fonts?
> >>>
> >>>>> Thanks
> >>>
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>
> >>>>> View this message in context:
> http://imagej.1557.x6.nabble.com/ImageJ-with-HiDpi-tp5014736.html
> >>>>> Sent from the ImageJ mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>> ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> If you reply to this email, your message will be added to
> the discussion below:
> >>>
> http://imagej.1557.x6.nabble.com/ImageJ-with-HiDpi-tp5014736p5014759.html
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> To unsubscribe from ImageJ with HiDpi, click here.
> >>>
> >>> NAML
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> View this message in context:
> http://imagej.1557.x6.nabble.com/ImageJ-with-HiDpi-tp5014736p5014775.html
> >>> Sent from the ImageJ mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html
> >>
> >> --
> >> ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html
> >
> >
> > --
> > ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html
> > <ubuntu-hidpi-imagej.png>
>
> --
> ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html
>

--
ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html