Hi All,
I do not know if this message has already been posted to the ImageJ community so I am re-posting it. I need to calculate the Mean Linear Intercept (MLI) in lung tissue. This means I have to calculate the number of intersections of the structure with the cutting plane of the lung. Is there anyone familiar with this? The only thing I have found is here but I have not seen the answer: http://n2.nabble.com/New-plugin:-Skeletonize3D-and-AnalyzeSkeleton-td1508856.html Many thanks for helping simone |
Simone, some time ago -- more than a year, at least -- I developed a
plug-in to do just that. However, I never used it outside of the Jbuilder development environment. I no longer use Jbuilder so can't produce a executable for it. But I'm willing to send you the 2 source files, one a GUI interface the other the processing engine. Let me know if this would be helpful for you. --- Mike Michael Sullivan Research Engineer Vermont Lung Center HSRF 235 University of Vermont -----Original Message----- From: ImageJ Interest Group [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of sdegan Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 4:41 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: Mean Linear Intercept Hi All, I do not know if this message has already been posted to the ImageJ community so I am re-posting it. I need to calculate the Mean Linear Intercept (MLI) in lung tissue. This means I have to calculate the number of intersections of the structure with the cutting plane of the lung. Is there anyone familiar with this? The only thing I have found is here but I have not seen the answer: http://n2.nabble.com/New-plugin:-Skeletonize3D-and-AnalyzeSkeleton-td150 8856.html Many thanks for helping simone -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Mean-Linear-Intercept-tp2374546p2374546.html Sent from the ImageJ mailing list archive at Nabble.com. |
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Hi,
I have the same question as simone below, I need to calculate the Mean Linear Intercept and was hoping to use Image J, but don't know how. Can anyone help me with this? Thanks, :>Anna
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Hi,
I have the same question as simone below, I need to calculate the Mean Linear Intercept in lung tissue and was hoping to use Image J, but don't know how. Can anyone help me with this? Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks, :>Anna
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Anna, Simone,
Could you explain us what exactly Mean Linear Intercept is and how do you measure it? Skeletonize3D and AnalyzeSkeleton are plugins to (respectively) extract the center-lines of 3D objects and measure them. You could maybe reuse some code... ignacio On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 9:09 AM, anafly <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hi, > > I have the same question as simone below, I need to calculate the Mean > Linear Intercept in lung tissue and was hoping to use Image J, but don't > know how. Can > anyone help me with this? Any help would be greatly appreciated! > > Thanks, > :>Anna > > > sdegan wrote: > > > > Hi All, > > > > I do not know if this message has already been posted to the ImageJ > > community so I am re-posting it. > > I need to calculate the Mean Linear Intercept (MLI) in lung tissue. This > > means I have to calculate the number of intersections of the structure > > with the cutting plane of the lung. Is there anyone familiar with this? > > > > The only thing I have found is here but I have not seen the answer: > > > http://n2.nabble.com/New-plugin:-Skeletonize3D-and-AnalyzeSkeleton-td1508856.html > > > > Many thanks for helping > > > > simone > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://n2.nabble.com/Mean-Linear-Intercept-tp2374546p3640301.html > Sent from the ImageJ mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > -- Ignacio Arganda-Carreras, Ph.D. Institute of Neuroinformatics Uni/ETH Zurich Winterthurerstrasse 190 Bau 55 Zurich 8057 +41 44 63 53 031 Website: http://bioweb.cnb.csic.es/~iarganda/ |
Ignacio,
MLI is a stereological technique that divides the total length of line probes with the number of times the probes intercept some boundary of interest; in this case it's alveolar walls in the lung. The idea is to get an estimate of the size of the air-tissue interface (if you have emphysema you have fewer alveolar walls and the MLI is bigger). *Quantitative Methods in the Study of Pulmonary Pathology* M. S. Dunnill Thorax 1962; 17: 320-328. http://dx.doi.org/10.1136/thx.17.4.320 A practical implementation is to sample along a row or column of pixels, count the number of borders you hit and then divide the total sampling length by border hits to get MLI. There is somewhere a grid calculator for ImageJ for people who want to do stereology, since counts by eye can avoid difficult problems when you have to avoid counting blood vessels as intercepts, for example, but when it is impractical to teach the computer what a blood vessel looks like. http://rsbweb.nih.gov/ij/plugins/grid.html MLI is also extended to a directional concept to work out anisotropy (also called mean intercept length method, MIL). You get the mean intercept length in different directions, which can help you work out the orientedness of your image. I have implemented MIL for anisotropy in 3D, which is not what is required here and probably confusing in terms of code reuse. Mike Ignacio Arganda wrote: > Anna, Simone, > Could you explain us what exactly Mean Linear Intercept is and how do you > measure it? > > Skeletonize3D and AnalyzeSkeleton are plugins to (respectively) extract the > center-lines of 3D objects and measure them. You could maybe reuse some > code... > > ignacio > > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 9:09 AM, anafly <[hidden email]> wrote: > > >> Hi, >> >> I have the same question as simone below, I need to calculate the Mean >> Linear Intercept in lung tissue and was hoping to use Image J, but don't >> know how. Can >> anyone help me with this? Any help would be greatly appreciated! >> >> Thanks, >> :>Anna >> >> >> sdegan wrote: >> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> I do not know if this message has already been posted to the ImageJ >>> community so I am re-posting it. >>> I need to calculate the Mean Linear Intercept (MLI) in lung tissue. This >>> means I have to calculate the number of intersections of the structure >>> with the cutting plane of the lung. Is there anyone familiar with this? >>> >>> The only thing I have found is here but I have not seen the answer: >>> >>> >> http://n2.nabble.com/New-plugin:-Skeletonize3D-and-AnalyzeSkeleton-td1508856.html >> >>> Many thanks for helping >>> >>> simone >>> >>> >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://n2.nabble.com/Mean-Linear-Intercept-tp2374546p3640301.html >> Sent from the ImageJ mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> > > > > |
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Dear all,
I need to measure the Mean Linear Intercept. Michael, may I have the plugin you developed and used to quantify emphysematous and control lungs? Waiting for your answer and thanks in advanced Regards Juanjo |
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