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Hello,
On ImageJ.net before the big site look revamp/update there was a page view counter at the bottom of the page, however they are no longer there. I had two questions. 1) Is that data still being tracked and if so how can I obtain it. 2) How can I add back the tracker? Thank you for your help! Nathan -- ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html |
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Hi Nathan,
> 1) Is that data still being tracked The page counter functionality was removed in MediaWiki 1.25 [1]. Since we upgraded to a newer MediaWiki version than that, the feature is gone now. > 2) How can I add back the tracker? Are you just looking for statistics regarding specific wiki pages? You want metrics on the popularity of your plugin(s), perhaps? Or something else? Regards, Curtis [1] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/150699/ -- Curtis Rueden LOCI software architect - http://loci.wisc.edu/software ImageJ2 lead, Fiji maintainer - http://imagej.net/User:Rueden Did you know ImageJ has a forum? http://forum.imagej.net/ On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 10:29 AM, Nathan Hotaling <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hello, > > > On ImageJ.net before the big site look revamp/update there was a page view > counter at the bottom of the page, however they are no longer there. I had > two questions. 1) Is that data still being tracked and if so how can I > obtain it. 2) How can I add back the tracker? > > Thank you for your help! > > > Nathan > > -- > ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html > -- ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html |
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Hey Curtis thanks for the response. My boss was asking how many page views we had because he wants it for an annual update on why our code is important in the community and if its gaining traction in a wider audience than just our lab/group. I think that any metric that would help reflect that would be invaluable. Are number of downloads or some other metric tracked somewhere?
I've never actually used google analytics (suggested in link you sent), is there a simple way to incorporate their tracking if MediaWiki no longer supports their own counter? I quickly tried pasting several different suggested pieces of code into my webpage but none seemed to add tracking data. Do you have any experience with it? Nathan -- ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html |
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Hi Nathan,
> I've never actually used google analytics (suggested in link you > sent), is there a simple way to incorporate their tracking if > MediaWiki no longer supports their own counter? I quickly tried > pasting several different suggested pieces of code into my webpage but > none seemed to add tracking data. Do you have any experience with it? If your goal is to measure the popularity of your plugin(s), tracking hits on your wiki page is not a very reliable metric. It would probably be better to look at the popularity of your update site(s), which can be done by analyzing web logs. We tried to add a feature to ImageJ to measure the popularity of individual plugins based on how frequently they are actually executed, which would be more accurate. But unfortunately, the ImageJ community rejected these improvements [1, 2]. In the long term, ImageJ will probably switch to a more granular plugin installation scheme, where plugins are installed by users individually on demand, similar to how Icy does it. Such a system would have many advantages, including users avoiding perceived "plugin bloat" of unused features, as well as more reliable statistics about which plugins are actually popular/useful and hence potentially worthy of dedicated funding. Regards, Curtis [1] http://imagej.1557.x6.nabble.com/ImageJ-2-0-0-rc-11-released-tt5009074.html [2] http://imagej.1557.x6.nabble.com/ImageJ-2-0-0-rc-13-released-tt5009146.html -- Curtis Rueden LOCI software architect - http://loci.wisc.edu/software ImageJ2 lead, Fiji maintainer - http://imagej.net/User:Rueden Did you know ImageJ has a forum? http://forum.imagej.net/ On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 5:05 PM, Nathan Hotaling <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hey Curtis thanks for the response. My boss was asking how many page > views we had because he wants it for an annual update on why our code is > important in the community and if its gaining traction in a wider audience > than just our lab/group. I think that any metric that would help reflect > that would be invaluable. Are number of downloads or some other metric > tracked somewhere? > > I've never actually used google analytics (suggested in link you sent), is > there a simple way to incorporate their tracking if MediaWiki no longer > supports their own counter? I quickly tried pasting several different > suggested pieces of code into my webpage but none seemed to add tracking > data. Do you have any experience with it? > > Nathan > > -- ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html |
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Good day Curtis,
you wrote: "Such a system would have many advantages, [...] more reliable statistics about which plugins are actually popular/useful and hence potentially worthy of dedicated funding." So you are again planning to introduce some kind of user tracking or collection of user data. I repeat what I've written in 2014: "Storing user data is a no no!" The reasons for this haven't changed since then. You cite the corresponding discussion. Best Herbie ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Am 05.10.16 um 16:38 schrieb Curtis Rueden: > Hi Nathan, > >> I've never actually used google analytics (suggested in link you >> sent), is there a simple way to incorporate their tracking if >> MediaWiki no longer supports their own counter? I quickly tried >> pasting several different suggested pieces of code into my webpage but >> none seemed to add tracking data. Do you have any experience with it? > > If your goal is to measure the popularity of your plugin(s), tracking hits > on your wiki page is not a very reliable metric. It would probably be > better to look at the popularity of your update site(s), which can be done > by analyzing web logs. > > We tried to add a feature to ImageJ to measure the popularity of individual > plugins based on how frequently they are actually executed, which would be > more accurate. But unfortunately, the ImageJ community rejected these > improvements [1, 2]. In the long term, ImageJ will probably switch to a > more granular plugin installation scheme, where plugins are installed by > users individually on demand, similar to how Icy does it. Such a system > would have many advantages, including users avoiding perceived "plugin > bloat" of unused features, as well as more reliable statistics about which > plugins are actually popular/useful and hence potentially worthy of > dedicated funding. > > Regards, > Curtis > > [1] > http://imagej.1557.x6.nabble.com/ImageJ-2-0-0-rc-11-released-tt5009074.html > [2] > http://imagej.1557.x6.nabble.com/ImageJ-2-0-0-rc-13-released-tt5009146.html > > -- > Curtis Rueden > LOCI software architect - http://loci.wisc.edu/software > ImageJ2 lead, Fiji maintainer - http://imagej.net/User:Rueden > Did you know ImageJ has a forum? http://forum.imagej.net/ > > > On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 5:05 PM, Nathan Hotaling <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> Hey Curtis thanks for the response. My boss was asking how many page >> views we had because he wants it for an annual update on why our code is >> important in the community and if its gaining traction in a wider audience >> than just our lab/group. I think that any metric that would help reflect >> that would be invaluable. Are number of downloads or some other metric >> tracked somewhere? >> >> I've never actually used google analytics (suggested in link you sent), is >> there a simple way to incorporate their tracking if MediaWiki no longer >> supports their own counter? I quickly tried pasting several different >> suggested pieces of code into my webpage but none seemed to add tracking >> data. Do you have any experience with it? >> >> Nathan >> >> > > -- > ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html > -- ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html |
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