Hi,
We are measuring the quantitative aspects of ultrasound in tendons especially the change in dimensions following exercise. The ultrasound image is a longitudinal image and I was wondering if it is possible to get a plot profile obtained from "analyse" directly superimposed on the tendon? If this is possible, it is then easy for us to separate the paratenon from the tendon proper especially when you do images before and after exercise. Our protocol is to image the tendon, exercise (low) the tendon and then repeat the image. This is a simplistic version of our protocol but will suffice for in this instance. We use the linear measure not rectilinear (ROI). Thanks very much for your help in anticipation. Regards Dr Simon Locke MBBS BMed Sci FACSP FFSEM (UK) FRACGP Sport and Exercise Physician Bendigo Orthopaedic and Sports Medicine Clinic 176 Barnard st, Bendigo, Victoria, 3550 P:613 5442 5288 F:613 5442 5399 W:sportmovementcentre.com Centre for Sport+ Movement is now on Facebook http://www.facebook.com -- ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html |
Dear Simon,
A macro tool can do that: draw a line between the clicked point to the current dragged to point, and draw the corresponding profile plot on an overlay, while dragging. I modified the LineMeasureTool example to do that, you can get it from this page: https://gist.github.com/mutterer/6898856 Sincerely, Jerome. On 9 October 2013 05:21, Simon Locke <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hi, > > > > We are measuring the quantitative aspects of ultrasound in tendons > especially the change in dimensions following exercise. > > > > The ultrasound image is a longitudinal image and I was wondering if it is > possible to get a plot profile obtained from "analyse" directly > superimposed > on the tendon? If this is possible, it is then easy for us to separate the > paratenon from the tendon proper especially when you do images before and > after exercise. > > > > Our protocol is to image the tendon, exercise (low) the tendon and then > repeat the image. This is a simplistic version of our protocol but will > suffice for in this instance. We use the linear measure not rectilinear > (ROI). > > > > Thanks very much for your help in anticipation. > > > > Regards > > > > Dr Simon Locke > > MBBS BMed Sci FACSP FFSEM (UK) FRACGP > > Sport and Exercise Physician > > Bendigo Orthopaedic and Sports Medicine Clinic > > 176 Barnard st, Bendigo, Victoria, 3550 > > > > P:613 5442 5288 F:613 5442 5399 W:sportmovementcentre.com > > > > Centre for Sport+ Movement is now on Facebook > > http://www.facebook.com > > > > > > > -- > ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html > -- ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html |
Dear Jerome,
Thanks very much for your help. I am not a programmer and really appreciate your help. It will take me a few days to get some time to trial it. I would like to get back then if that is ok? This will help immensely as it is easier to be accurate when you can see the superimposed plot. Again thank you. Regards Simon Dr Simon Locke Sport and Exercise Physician Bendigo Orthopaedic and Sports Medicine Clinic (03) 5442 5288 Sent from my iPad On 09/10/2013, at 8:56 PM, Jerome Mutterer <[hidden email]> wrote: > Dear Simon, > > A macro tool can do that: draw a line between the clicked point to the > current dragged to point, and draw the corresponding profile plot on an > overlay, while dragging. > I modified the LineMeasureTool example to do that, you can get it from this > page: > https://gist.github.com/mutterer/6898856 > Sincerely, > Jerome. > > > > On 9 October 2013 05:21, Simon Locke <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> >> >> We are measuring the quantitative aspects of ultrasound in tendons >> especially the change in dimensions following exercise. >> >> >> >> The ultrasound image is a longitudinal image and I was wondering if it is >> possible to get a plot profile obtained from "analyse" directly >> superimposed >> on the tendon? If this is possible, it is then easy for us to separate the >> paratenon from the tendon proper especially when you do images before and >> after exercise. >> >> >> >> Our protocol is to image the tendon, exercise (low) the tendon and then >> repeat the image. This is a simplistic version of our protocol but will >> suffice for in this instance. We use the linear measure not rectilinear >> (ROI). >> >> >> >> Thanks very much for your help in anticipation. >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> >> >> Dr Simon Locke >> >> MBBS BMed Sci FACSP FFSEM (UK) FRACGP >> >> Sport and Exercise Physician >> >> Bendigo Orthopaedic and Sports Medicine Clinic >> >> 176 Barnard st, Bendigo, Victoria, 3550 >> >> >> >> P:613 5442 5288 F:613 5442 5399 W:sportmovementcentre.com >> >> >> >> Centre for Sport+ Movement is now on Facebook >> >> http://www.facebook.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html >> > > -- > ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html -- ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html |
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Thanks Jerome
Works a treat. It is now easier to determine the edge of the tendon. Is it possible to add measures as well? The measures I need are first and foremost distance. Secondary importance is primary statistics. Thanks for Your help. Regards Simon Dr Simon Locke Sport and Exercise Physician Bendigo Orthopaedic and Sports Medicine Clinic (03) 5442 5288 Sent from my iPad On 09/10/2013, at 8:56 PM, Jerome Mutterer <[hidden email]> wrote: > Dear Simon, > > A macro tool can do that: draw a line between the clicked point to the > current dragged to point, and draw the corresponding profile plot on an > overlay, while dragging. > I modified the LineMeasureTool example to do that, you can get it from this > page: > https://gist.github.com/mutterer/6898856 > Sincerely, > Jerome. > > > > On 9 October 2013 05:21, Simon Locke <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> >> >> We are measuring the quantitative aspects of ultrasound in tendons >> especially the change in dimensions following exercise. >> >> >> >> The ultrasound image is a longitudinal image and I was wondering if it is >> possible to get a plot profile obtained from "analyse" directly >> superimposed >> on the tendon? If this is possible, it is then easy for us to separate the >> paratenon from the tendon proper especially when you do images before and >> after exercise. >> >> >> >> Our protocol is to image the tendon, exercise (low) the tendon and then >> repeat the image. This is a simplistic version of our protocol but will >> suffice for in this instance. We use the linear measure not rectilinear >> (ROI). >> >> >> >> Thanks very much for your help in anticipation. >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> >> >> Dr Simon Locke >> >> MBBS BMed Sci FACSP FFSEM (UK) FRACGP >> >> Sport and Exercise Physician >> >> Bendigo Orthopaedic and Sports Medicine Clinic >> >> 176 Barnard st, Bendigo, Victoria, 3550 >> >> >> >> P:613 5442 5288 F:613 5442 5399 W:sportmovementcentre.com >> >> >> >> Centre for Sport+ Movement is now on Facebook >> >> http://www.facebook.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html >> > > -- > ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html -- ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html |
Hi Simon,
I've updated https://gist.github.com/mutterer/6898856 to also display line length, min and max. Best, Jerome On 11 October 2013 22:49, Simon Locke <[hidden email]> wrote: > Thanks Jerome > > Works a treat. It is now easier to determine the edge of the tendon. Is > it possible to add measures as well? The measures I need are first and > foremost distance. Secondary importance is primary statistics. > > Thanks for Your help. > > Regards > > Simon > > Dr Simon Locke > Sport and Exercise Physician > Bendigo Orthopaedic and Sports Medicine Clinic > (03) 5442 5288 > > Sent from my iPad > > On 09/10/2013, at 8:56 PM, Jerome Mutterer < > [hidden email]> wrote: > > > Dear Simon, > > > > A macro tool can do that: draw a line between the clicked point to the > > current dragged to point, and draw the corresponding profile plot on an > > overlay, while dragging. > > I modified the LineMeasureTool example to do that, you can get it from > this > > page: > > https://gist.github.com/mutterer/6898856 > > Sincerely, > > Jerome. > > > > > > > > On 9 October 2013 05:21, Simon Locke <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> > >> > >> We are measuring the quantitative aspects of ultrasound in tendons > >> especially the change in dimensions following exercise. > >> > >> > >> > >> The ultrasound image is a longitudinal image and I was wondering if it > is > >> possible to get a plot profile obtained from "analyse" directly > >> superimposed > >> on the tendon? If this is possible, it is then easy for us to separate > the > >> paratenon from the tendon proper especially when you do images before > and > >> after exercise. > >> > >> > >> > >> Our protocol is to image the tendon, exercise (low) the tendon and then > >> repeat the image. This is a simplistic version of our protocol but will > >> suffice for in this instance. We use the linear measure not rectilinear > >> (ROI). > >> > >> > >> > >> Thanks very much for your help in anticipation. > >> > >> > >> > >> Regards > >> > >> > >> > >> Dr Simon Locke > >> > >> MBBS BMed Sci FACSP FFSEM (UK) FRACGP > >> > >> Sport and Exercise Physician > >> > >> Bendigo Orthopaedic and Sports Medicine Clinic > >> > >> 176 Barnard st, Bendigo, Victoria, 3550 > >> > >> > >> > >> P:613 5442 5288 F:613 5442 5399 W:sportmovementcentre.com > >> > >> > >> > >> Centre for Sport+ Movement is now on Facebook > >> > >> http://www.facebook.com > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html > >> > > > > -- > > ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html > > -- > ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html > -- ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html |
Hi Jerome,
Perfect Thank you Regards Simon Dr Simon Locke MBBS BMed Sci FACSP FFSEM (UK) FRACGP Sport and Exercise Physician Bendigo Orthopaedic and Sports Medicine Clinic 176 Barnard st, Bendigo, Victoria, 3550 P:613 5442 5288 F:613 5442 5399 W:sportmovementcentre.com Centre for Sport+ Movement is now on Facebook http://www.facebook.com -----Original Message----- From: ImageJ Interest Group [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Jerome Mutterer Sent: Sunday, 13 October 2013 5:41 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: Superimposing plot profile directly onto image Hi Simon, I've updated https://gist.github.com/mutterer/6898856 to also display line length, min and max. Best, Jerome On 11 October 2013 22:49, Simon Locke <[hidden email]> wrote: > Thanks Jerome > > Works a treat. It is now easier to determine the edge of the tendon. > Is it possible to add measures as well? The measures I need are first > and foremost distance. Secondary importance is primary statistics. > > Thanks for Your help. > > Regards > > Simon > > Dr Simon Locke > Sport and Exercise Physician > Bendigo Orthopaedic and Sports Medicine Clinic > (03) 5442 5288 > > Sent from my iPad > > On 09/10/2013, at 8:56 PM, Jerome Mutterer < > [hidden email]> wrote: > > > Dear Simon, > > > > A macro tool can do that: draw a line between the clicked point to > > the current dragged to point, and draw the corresponding profile > > plot on an overlay, while dragging. > > I modified the LineMeasureTool example to do that, you can get it > > from > this > > page: > > https://gist.github.com/mutterer/6898856 > > Sincerely, > > Jerome. > > > > > > > > On 9 October 2013 05:21, Simon Locke <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> > >> > >> We are measuring the quantitative aspects of ultrasound in tendons > >> especially the change in dimensions following exercise. > >> > >> > >> > >> The ultrasound image is a longitudinal image and I was wondering if > >> it > is > >> possible to get a plot profile obtained from "analyse" directly > >> superimposed on the tendon? If this is possible, it is then easy > >> for us to separate > the > >> paratenon from the tendon proper especially when you do images > >> before > and > >> after exercise. > >> > >> > >> > >> Our protocol is to image the tendon, exercise (low) the tendon and > >> then repeat the image. This is a simplistic version of our protocol > >> but will suffice for in this instance. We use the linear measure > >> not rectilinear (ROI). > >> > >> > >> > >> Thanks very much for your help in anticipation. > >> > >> > >> > >> Regards > >> > >> > >> > >> Dr Simon Locke > >> > >> MBBS BMed Sci FACSP FFSEM (UK) FRACGP > >> > >> Sport and Exercise Physician > >> > >> Bendigo Orthopaedic and Sports Medicine Clinic > >> > >> 176 Barnard st, Bendigo, Victoria, 3550 > >> > >> > >> > >> P:613 5442 5288 F:613 5442 5399 W:sportmovementcentre.com > >> > >> > >> > >> Centre for Sport+ Movement is now on Facebook > >> > >> http://www.facebook.com > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html > >> > > > > -- > > ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html > > -- > ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html > -- ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html -- ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html |
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For Fiji users, I've also added this tool to the IBMP-CNRS Fiji personal
update site, which makes it easier to install and allows receiving updates automatically. Thanks Johannes for the reminder to do so. See http://fiji.sc/How_to_follow_a_3rd_party_update_site . Sincerely, Jerome On 13 October 2013 09:11, Simon Locke <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hi Jerome, > > Perfect > Thank you > > Regards > Simon > > Dr Simon Locke > MBBS BMed Sci FACSP FFSEM (UK) FRACGP > Sport and Exercise Physician > Bendigo Orthopaedic and Sports Medicine Clinic > 176 Barnard st, Bendigo, Victoria, 3550 > > P:613 5442 5288 F:613 5442 5399 W:sportmovementcentre.com > > Centre for Sport+ Movement is now on Facebook > http://www.facebook.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ImageJ Interest Group [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of > Jerome > Mutterer > Sent: Sunday, 13 October 2013 5:41 AM > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: Superimposing plot profile directly onto image > > Hi Simon, > I've updated https://gist.github.com/mutterer/6898856 to also display line > length, min and max. > Best, > Jerome > > > On 11 October 2013 22:49, Simon Locke <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > Thanks Jerome > > > > Works a treat. It is now easier to determine the edge of the tendon. > > Is it possible to add measures as well? The measures I need are first > > and foremost distance. Secondary importance is primary statistics. > > > > Thanks for Your help. > > > > Regards > > > > Simon > > > > Dr Simon Locke > > Sport and Exercise Physician > > Bendigo Orthopaedic and Sports Medicine Clinic > > (03) 5442 5288 > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > > On 09/10/2013, at 8:56 PM, Jerome Mutterer < > > [hidden email]> wrote: > > > > > Dear Simon, > > > > > > A macro tool can do that: draw a line between the clicked point to > > > the current dragged to point, and draw the corresponding profile > > > plot on an overlay, while dragging. > > > I modified the LineMeasureTool example to do that, you can get it > > > from > > this > > > page: > > > https://gist.github.com/mutterer/6898856 > > > Sincerely, > > > Jerome. > > > > > > > > > > > > On 9 October 2013 05:21, Simon Locke <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > > > >> Hi, > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> We are measuring the quantitative aspects of ultrasound in tendons > > >> especially the change in dimensions following exercise. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> The ultrasound image is a longitudinal image and I was wondering if > > >> it > > is > > >> possible to get a plot profile obtained from "analyse" directly > > >> superimposed on the tendon? If this is possible, it is then easy > > >> for us to separate > > the > > >> paratenon from the tendon proper especially when you do images > > >> before > > and > > >> after exercise. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Our protocol is to image the tendon, exercise (low) the tendon and > > >> then repeat the image. This is a simplistic version of our protocol > > >> but will suffice for in this instance. We use the linear measure > > >> not rectilinear (ROI). > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Thanks very much for your help in anticipation. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Regards > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Dr Simon Locke > > >> > > >> MBBS BMed Sci FACSP FFSEM (UK) FRACGP > > >> > > >> Sport and Exercise Physician > > >> > > >> Bendigo Orthopaedic and Sports Medicine Clinic > > >> > > >> 176 Barnard st, Bendigo, Victoria, 3550 > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> P:613 5442 5288 F:613 5442 5399 W:sportmovementcentre.com > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Centre for Sport+ Movement is now on Facebook > > >> > > >> http://www.facebook.com > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html > > >> > > > > > > -- > > > ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html > > > > -- > > ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html > > > > -- > ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html > > -- > ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html > -- ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html |
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