Dear Imagers,
I have done some experiments adding Gaussian noise to my time lapses to determine the efficacy of a certain filter, and would like to give an idea of how much noise had been there originally. Any suggestions, then, for measuring this "baseline experimental noise?" I am thinking perhaps I should take a z-projected (well, "t-projected," really) mean image of the series, subtract it from each image in the stack, then do a z-projected standard deviation, report the average value of this projected image? Or instead of subtracting the first mean image, maybe I should divide the stack by it? Any advice here would be welcome, Jacob Keller -- ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html |
Noise is a tricky subject - clearly if you know what the signal should be then you can measure the noise, but usually we don't.
An alternative that we use in colocalization measurements is based on the idea that noise can be addressed by acquiring two images of the specimen- in the absence of noise and movement they should be identical. The magnitude of the noise can be displayed using a scattergram and quantified using the correlation between the two nominally identical images. Adler J., Bergholm F., Pagakis S.N., Parmryd I (2008) Noise and Colocalization in Fluorescence Microscopy: Solving a Problem. Microscopy & Analysis, Sept. 2008, 7-10. J. Adler, S.N. Pagakis and I. Parmryd (2008) Replicate Based Noise Corrected Correlation for Accurate Measurements of Colocalization J. Microscopy 230(1),121-133. ________________________________________ From: ImageJ Interest Group [[hidden email]] on behalf of Rebecca Keller [[hidden email]] Sent: 06 October 2014 20:11 To: [hidden email] Subject: Timelapse Noise Quantification Dear Imagers, I have done some experiments adding Gaussian noise to my time lapses to determine the efficacy of a certain filter, and would like to give an idea of how much noise had been there originally. Any suggestions, then, for measuring this "baseline experimental noise?" I am thinking perhaps I should take a z-projected (well, "t-projected," really) mean image of the series, subtract it from each image in the stack, then do a z-projected standard deviation, report the average value of this projected image? Or instead of subtracting the first mean image, maybe I should divide the stack by it? Any advice here would be welcome, Jacob Keller -- ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html -- ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html |
Excellent--thanks for the ref's, and I will look into this approach.
All the best, Jacob On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 1:16 AM, Jeremy Adler <[hidden email]> wrote: > Noise is a tricky subject - clearly if you know what the signal should be > then you can measure the noise, but usually we don't. > An alternative that we use in colocalization measurements is based on the > idea that noise can be addressed by acquiring two images of the specimen- > in the absence of noise and movement they should be identical. The > magnitude of the noise can be displayed using a scattergram and quantified > using the correlation between the two nominally identical images. > > Adler J., Bergholm F., Pagakis S.N., Parmryd I (2008) > Noise and Colocalization in Fluorescence Microscopy: Solving a Problem. > Microscopy & Analysis, Sept. 2008, 7-10. > > J. Adler, S.N. Pagakis and I. Parmryd (2008) > Replicate Based Noise Corrected Correlation for Accurate Measurements of > Colocalization > J. Microscopy 230(1),121-133. > > > ________________________________________ > From: ImageJ Interest Group [[hidden email]] on behalf of Rebecca > Keller [[hidden email]] > Sent: 06 October 2014 20:11 > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Timelapse Noise Quantification > > Dear Imagers, > > I have done some experiments adding Gaussian noise to my time lapses to > determine the efficacy of a certain filter, and would like to give an idea > of how much noise had been there originally. Any suggestions, then, for > measuring this "baseline experimental noise?" > > I am thinking perhaps I should take a z-projected (well, "t-projected," > really) mean image of the series, subtract it from each image in the stack, > then do a z-projected standard deviation, report the average value of this > projected image? Or instead of subtracting the first mean image, maybe I > should divide the stack by it? > > Any advice here would be welcome, > > Jacob Keller > > -- > ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html > > -- > ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html > -- ImageJ mailing list: http://imagej.nih.gov/ij/list.html |
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