Toolset behaviour

[Johannes Koch]

Dear ImageJ community,

I am somewhat confused concerning the behaviour of ImageJ's (1.46o, Win7
64bit) toolsets.

I always thought that the StartupMacros are automatically installed upon
startup, which evidently is not the case with my install. I can even
delete the StartupMacros.txt and ImageJ still loads a weird combination
of STK, DEV and FLOOD FILL tools, the same as before.

I have to admit though that by now I don't know what I have already
clicked and selected, but my startup macros contain the "standard" list
which is not shown even when manually selecting startup Macros.

Another one: I created a toolset composed of a single macro (the LUT
list). When I load this Toolset it just adds this single tool at
position "H" thereby replacing the last button of the old toolset but
leaving all the others there. Wouldn't it be more logical if all but one
icons were empty, i.e. making everything blank and then loading the new
toolset?

Maybe someone could clarify the logic behind this? Thanks!

Johannes




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[Tiago Ferreira-2]

On 2012.05.31, at 02:51 , Johannes Koch wrote:
>
> I am somewhat confused concerning the behaviour of ImageJ's (1.46o, Win7 64bit) toolsets.
> I always thought that the StartupMacros are automatically installed upon startup, which evidently is not the case with my install. I can even delete the StartupMacros.txt and ImageJ still loads a weird combination of STK, DEV and FLOOD FILL tools, the same as before.

As described on the IJ news webpage, this is a feature of IJ 1.46.
The following is and excerpt from sections 18 & 19 of the updated User Guide, due this late summer and temporarily at <http://bit.ly/ijguide>:

The eight Toolbar slots between the Color Picker and the More Tools Menu can be customized using the "More Tools" menu (named Toolset Switcher in previous IJ versions). Tool configurations are stored in the ImageJ preferences file and retrieved across restarts.

At startup, the default set of tools is typically loaded from StartupMacros.txt. Later on, tools can be appended or replaced. Single Tools are installed in the first available slot, or in the last slot if no free slots are available. Toolsets replace all the eight slots in the toolbar. Choose "Remove Tools" to reset the toolbar.

The "More Tools" list is populated by StartupMacros.txt in ImageJ/macros/, Toolsets in ImageJ/macros/toolsets/, built-in tools loaded from ij.jar (Arrow, Brush, Developer Menu, Flood Filler, LUT Menu, Overlay Brush, Pencil, Spray Can and Stacks Menu) and single (custom) tools installed in ImageJ/plugins/Tools/.


> I have to admit though that by now I don't know what I have already clicked and selected, but my startup macros contain the "standard" list which is not shown even when manually selecting startup Macros.

As mentioned above, choose "Remove Tools", then choose Startup Macros from the "More Tools" menu to reset the toolbar

> Another one: I created a toolset composed of a single macro (the LUT list). When I load this Toolset it just adds this single tool at position "H" thereby replacing the last button of the old toolset but leaving all the others there. Wouldn't it be more logical if all but one icons were empty, i.e. making everything blank and then loading the new toolset?

If you want to clear the toolbar when you register a single tool, just add a "spacer macro" to your single macro tool file,
    macro "Unused Tool -" {}

HTH,
-tiago

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[Johannes Koch]

Thanks for the detailed response.

Johannes

Am 31.05.2012 14:48, schrieb Tiago Ferreira:

> On 2012.05.31, at 02:51 , Johannes Koch wrote:
>> I am somewhat confused concerning the behaviour of ImageJ's (1.46o, Win7 64bit) toolsets.
>> I always thought that the StartupMacros are automatically installed upon startup, which evidently is not the case with my install. I can even delete the StartupMacros.txt and ImageJ still loads a weird combination of STK, DEV and FLOOD FILL tools, the same as before.
> As described on the IJ news webpage, this is a feature of IJ 1.46.
> The following is and excerpt from sections 18&  19 of the updated User Guide, due this late summer and temporarily at<http://bit.ly/ijguide>:
>
> The eight Toolbar slots between the Color Picker and the More Tools Menu can be customized using the "More Tools" menu (named Toolset Switcher in previous IJ versions). Tool configurations are stored in the ImageJ preferences file and retrieved across restarts.
>
> At startup, the default set of tools is typically loaded from StartupMacros.txt. Later on, tools can be appended or replaced. Single Tools are installed in the first available slot, or in the last slot if no free slots are available. Toolsets replace all the eight slots in the toolbar. Choose "Remove Tools" to reset the toolbar.
>
> The "More Tools" list is populated by StartupMacros.txt in ImageJ/macros/, Toolsets in ImageJ/macros/toolsets/, built-in tools loaded from ij.jar (Arrow, Brush, Developer Menu, Flood Filler, LUT Menu, Overlay Brush, Pencil, Spray Can and Stacks Menu) and single (custom) tools installed in ImageJ/plugins/Tools/.
>
>
>> I have to admit though that by now I don't know what I have already clicked and selected, but my startup macros contain the "standard" list which is not shown even when manually selecting startup Macros.
> As mentioned above, choose "Remove Tools", then choose Startup Macros from the "More Tools" menu to reset the toolbar
>
>> Another one: I created a toolset composed of a single macro (the LUT list). When I load this Toolset it just adds this single tool at position "H" thereby replacing the last button of the old toolset but leaving all the others there. Wouldn't it be more logical if all but one icons were empty, i.e. making everything blank and then loading the new toolset?
> If you want to clear the toolbar when you register a single tool, just add a "spacer macro" to your single macro tool file,
>      macro "Unused Tool -" {}
>
> HTH,
> -tiago
>
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Dr. Johannes Koch

Tissue Med Biosciences GmbH
Magnesitstrasse 1
A-3500 Krems

Telefon: [phone] 300
Fax: [phone] 4061

email: [hidden email]

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