write é è à... in macros

[CARL Philippe (LBP)]

Dear all,

Being French (sorry about that), I would like to use sometimes characters
like é è ê ë à ï (I guess this is it…) within macros.

And as the use of such characters seem to be well implement within java or
javascript languages
(http://www.charbase.com/00e9-unicode-latin-small-letter-e-with-acute) I get
quite strange behaviors in the macro language.

Indeed given that I always program the macros within a Fiji Script… window,
the characters get correctly show up if they are typed within a Script
window and then the macro launched from there (= a Script window).

But once the macro finalized, if I put then the macro inside the plugin
folder and launch it via the plugins menu, the characters don’t come out
correctly.

Is there a way to fix this or a manual dealing about this (very sharp)
question?

Thanks a lot in advance for your help.

My best regards,

Philippe

 

Philippe CARL

Laboratoire de Biophotonique et Pharmacologie

UMR 7213 CNRS - Université de Strasbourg

Faculté de Pharmacie

74 route du Rhin

67401 ILLKIRCH

Tel : [phone]

 


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[CARL Philippe (LBP)]

Dear Michael,
It seems the issue comes from the way the Script editor in Fiji (I haven't
tried the vanilla Imagej version) is saving these characters.
Indeed if I copy your macro in a Fiji Script editor window and then save the
macro into the plugin folder I get some strange characters when I launch it
then from the plugins window.
But if I save your macro directly into the plugin folder it launches fine.
Additionally if I open the 2 files within Notepad++ the file with the
"working" macro is saved in Dos\Windows - ANSI and the other one in UNIX -
ANSI as UTF-8.
I hope this helps.
My best regards,
Philippe

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De : Cammer, Michael [mailto:[hidden email]]
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Cc : 'Rasband, Wayne (NIH/NIMH) [E]'
Objet : RE: write é è à... in macros

That's odd.  Works fine here.

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Philippe CARL
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Subject: write é è à... in macros

Dear all,

Being French (sorry about that), I would like to use sometimes characters
like é è ê ë à ï (I guess this is it.) within macros.

And as the use of such characters seem to be well implement within java or
javascript languages
(http://www.charbase.com/00e9-unicode-latin-small-letter-e-with-acute) I get
quite strange behaviors in the macro language.

Indeed given that I always program the macros within a Fiji Script. window,
the characters get correctly show up if they are typed within a Script
window and then the macro launched from there (= a Script window).

But once the macro finalized, if I put then the macro inside the plugin
folder and launch it via the plugins menu, the characters don't come out
correctly.

Is there a way to fix this or a manual dealing about this (very sharp)
question?

Thanks a lot in advance for your help.

My best regards,

Philippe

 

Philippe CARL

Laboratoire de Biophotonique et Pharmacologie

UMR 7213 CNRS - Université de Strasbourg

Faculté de Pharmacie

74 route du Rhin

67401 ILLKIRCH

Tel : [phone]

 


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[Michael Schmid]

Hi Philippe,

it looks like a matter of the default file encoding. I guess that Java takes that value from the operating system unless it is explicitly set via an option when staring the JVM. Probably it is set somewhere in the ImageJ launcher.

Use Plugins>Utilities>ImageJ Properties. This will tell you what you have (roughly 15 lines from top).

If you want to write macros not only for your personal use, I would strongly propose to write non-ascii characters in a way that is independent of file encoding.

Unfortunately, it seems that the ImageJ macro language currently does not support the java notation \u00e9, so currently you have to write, e.g.

  print("arriv"+fromCharCode(0x00e9));

Of course, you could write a short list defining the characters, e.g.
  eGrave=fromCharCode(0x00e8);
  eAcute=fromCharCode(0x00e9);
  print("arriv"+eAcute);

Michael
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On Jul 2, 2014, at 14:23, Philippe CARL wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> Being French (sorry about that), I would like to use sometimes characters
> like é è ê ë à ï (I guess this is it…) within macros.
>
> And as the use of such characters seem to be well implement within java or
> javascript languages
> (http://www.charbase.com/00e9-unicode-latin-small-letter-e-with-acute) I get
> quite strange behaviors in the macro language.
>
> Indeed given that I always program the macros within a Fiji Script… window,
> the characters get correctly show up if they are typed within a Script
> window and then the macro launched from there (= a Script window).
>
> But once the macro finalized, if I put then the macro inside the plugin
> folder and launch it via the plugins menu, the characters don’t come out
> correctly.
>
> Is there a way to fix this or a manual dealing about this (very sharp)
> question?
>
> Thanks a lot in advance for your help.
>
> My best regards,
>
> Philippe
>
>
>
> Philippe CARL
>
> Laboratoire de Biophotonique et Pharmacologie
>
> UMR 7213 CNRS - Université de Strasbourg
>
> Faculté de Pharmacie
>
> 74 route du Rhin
>
> 67401 ILLKIRCH
>
> Tel : [phone]
>
>
>
>
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[dscho]

Hi Philippe,

On Wed, 2 Jul 2014, Philippe CARL wrote:

> It seems the issue comes from the way the Script editor in Fiji (I haven't
> tried the vanilla Imagej version) is saving these characters.

For platform-independence, the script editor (which is actually now the
ImageJ script editor, maintained as part of
https://github.com/imagej/imagej-ui-swing) forces UTF-8 encoding and does
not let Java on MacOSX use the Mac-only MacRoman encoding. I fear that
ImageJ 1.x lets Java wreak havoc here; I would be *surprised* if the *very
same* macro you saved with the script editor would fail to show the
correct characters when being run on Linux or Windows.

Ciao,
Johannes

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[Kenneth Sloan]

Why not UTF-16?

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On Jul 2, 2014, at 10:29 , Johannes Schindelin <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Philippe,
>
> On Wed, 2 Jul 2014, Philippe CARL wrote:
>
>> It seems the issue comes from the way the Script editor in Fiji (I haven't
>> tried the vanilla Imagej version) is saving these characters.
>
> For platform-independence, the script editor (which is actually now the
> ImageJ script editor, maintained as part of
> https://github.com/imagej/imagej-ui-swing) forces UTF-8 encoding and does
> not let Java on MacOSX use the Mac-only MacRoman encoding. I fear that
> ImageJ 1.x lets Java wreak havoc here; I would be *surprised* if the *very
> same* macro you saved with the script editor would fail to show the
> correct characters when being run on Linux or Windows.
>
> Ciao,
> Johannes
>
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[CARL Philippe (LBP)]

Dear Johannes,
I'm actually running Fiji (as well as the Script Editor) under Windows 7,
not Mac...
My best regards,
Philippe

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Kenneth Sloan
Envoyé : jeudi 3 juillet 2014 04:20
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Objet : Re: write é è à... in macros

Why not UTF-16?

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"La lutte elle-même vers les sommets suffit à remplir un coeur d'homme; il
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On Jul 2, 2014, at 10:29 , Johannes Schindelin <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> Hi Philippe,
>
> On Wed, 2 Jul 2014, Philippe CARL wrote:
>
>> It seems the issue comes from the way the Script editor in Fiji (I
>> haven't tried the vanilla Imagej version) is saving these characters.
>
> For platform-independence, the script editor (which is actually now
> the ImageJ script editor, maintained as part of
> https://github.com/imagej/imagej-ui-swing) forces UTF-8 encoding and
> does not let Java on MacOSX use the Mac-only MacRoman encoding. I fear
> that ImageJ 1.x lets Java wreak havoc here; I would be *surprised* if
> the *very
> same* macro you saved with the script editor would fail to show the
> correct characters when being run on Linux or Windows.
>
> Ciao,
> Johannes
>
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[dscho]

Hi Philippe,

On Thu, 3 Jul 2014, Philippe CARL wrote:

> I'm actually running Fiji (as well as the Script Editor) under Windows 7,
> not Mac...

I guess that the ImageJ 1.x macro language uses the locale, then. This is
in general a good idea for displaying values, but not for consuming
code...

Ciao,
Johannes

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